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TopIdol went to a Glamnation Show (Part Une)

2010 August 24
by TopIdol

Where should I begin? I’m not quite sure, but outside the venue may a good start.

I made my way into Hampton Beach, New Hampshire early Saturday evening for the sold-out Adam Lambert show at the Hampton Beach Casino Ballroom. The venue is neither a casino nor a ballroom, although more of the latter than a gambling den, as there are no casinos in NH. Of course, I suppose I could have tried to play 3-card Monty or taken bets on whether or not a Glambert would be taken from the show on a stretcher.

My sidekick for the evening was my friend, Short Stuff. She’s a tiny little thing, which probably kept out of trouble as she needed to see the stage so we hung out in back. I never tried venturing to the front as I leave for Burning Man in a few days and an injury would suck. Perhaps it is because of this I have walked away from the experience with a more positive impression of the Glambert faction — I never once encountered the rudeness and nastiness such as when I navigated the crowd at David Cook’s Northampton show last year. Did I meet a few crazies? Hell yeah. Did I meet a few very sweet people? Of course.

The sun had not set over New Hampshire yet, but the air rolling off the Atlantic was cooler than usual and the sky was overcast. Hampton Beach is a resort town of sorts, complete with a cheesy boardwalk peppered with t-shirt stores and garish gift shops. The line wrapped around one side of the plaza. Locals asked us what was going on, as we were not in line but obviously surveying the view. It is Hampton Beach, so many of the locals did not differ in appearance much from those waiting in line — a line which started, as per the adorable young men on the Casino Ballroom’s security staff — at 5:30am. There were jean shorts, sweatpants emblazoned with Hampton Beach down the side of one leg, t-shirts akin to sausage casing and more than anything, bad, bad, bad hair.

When I say bad hair, I mean bad hair. Hair damaged from years of bleaching and crimping and who knows what else. Hair that looks as if was routinely trimmed with a butter knife. My mother raised me to never leave the house if your hair was in such disarray and she grew up poor in a small Illinois town. It was not as if the complete lack of respect for clothing or overall grooming was a shock to my system. Of course not. I was in Hampton fraking Beach. It was more that people would go to a concert dressed as if they just rolled off their sofa and ran out for a fresh pack of Marlboro Reds. Then again, this was exactly what I marveled at when I went to David Cook’s show. (It should also be noted that I am a huge fan of casual attire and dress up as little as possible…but come on! Sweatpants for a Saturday night out? You couldn’t even throw on your best Lee jeans?)

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Short Stuff marveled at what she saw, as she is an admitted Adam Lambert fan. She was hoping for more GLAMOSITY, though. Like me, she wanted more terrible costumes and crimes against pleather. We could not often discern a local cruising the strip from a Glambert, although the line was a good place to start. And while we expected more GLAMOSITY, it was only moments before our eyes feasted upon a fabulous fashion show known as GLAMNATION.

First off, I needed to eat. Luckily for me (and for the McDonald’s corporation), there was a McD’s located right by the venue! Since I am not overweight and exercise regularly, I have no problem grabbing a bite at McDonald’s. But shame on the Hampton Beach location for not having the $1 Dollar Menu, forcing me to buy a 6-piece Chicken McNuggets for almost $3! (On the $1 menu, a 4-piece McNuggets is $1. Buy 2 and you get 8 McNuggets for less than the 6-piece!) Since the location is beachfront, I guess this was a wise financial decision. Alas. Short Stuff and I both got sodas, too, as I was concealing a $4.99 bottle of Sailor Jerry’s in my bag and enjoy saving money. (Alas. A state trooper was parked across the street so we postponed this plan.) On our way out, I noticed a familiar face at the soda fountain! It was one of the women who wrote that On the Meaning of Adam Lambert book!

I knew one of them lived in the Boston area, and I booked it out of the place for fear she would recognize me, even though I was somewhat glammed out for my undercover mission. Certainly she had seen those impassioned readings Melina and I have performed of her epic work. A minute later, we saw her join her partner-in-crime in the line with their dinner. Xena & Juneau! Together! In the flesh! While I would often make fun of a lot of Idol fantards’ public food consumption, I had just scarfed down a cheeseburger and some McNuggets, plus these women seem to take decent care of themselves. It’s only necessary to point and laugh because they wrote that god-awful “book.”

It was at this point we saw our first TARD SIGN!

There were a fair amount of young girls in attendance, as well as men, although they were vastly outnumbered by the older women. And people waited for the doors to open…

And waited…

There was one group of women I particularly enjoyed, my favorite of which was wearing the blue tank top. Since this was taken from the back, you cannot see her handbag. This particular purse was some Etsy special and featured a screenprint of young thin Elvis on the cover of a TV Guide. She loves RAWK GAWDS! (There is also another woman with a walker of sorts. A sort of hybrid Hover Round / Rascal / Radio Flyer / SoloFlex / Walker.)

We finally got in line once it started moving. Behind us was two young women, one of their boyfriends, and their children. The children were glammed up. Short Stuff is better with children than me, so she told them how cute the kids were and asked to take a photo. At this point, I took a few and smiled sweetly. They weren’t causing any trouble. (I hate MEAN Glamberts, dammit!) I did feel bad for the most glammed-up kid of them all, though, as once the camera came out he ran to the nearest hiding place — his mother’s crotch. He was not having any of it. I considered it being a shy-child thing, but he may also have been filled with shame. The kid was done up pretty well and it was not Halloween. He could not have been more than 5. I really wonder how these women get their kids to agree to this sort of thing. Granted, I was a total pain in the ass as a child and refused to order off the children’s menu or do anything else my parents told me to do, so maybe I really don’t get it. But come on…don’t little kids bite? I know you’re not supposed to bite the hand that feeds you, but hell, I don’t know…

(You can see the kid hiding behind the others in this shot)

And he goes running!

At the same time, some terrible outdoor concert was going on across the street. It seemed to be a Hampton Beach Idol of sorts! (Oh the irony!) Or maybe just an open mic night. No clue. But there was a crowd and locals continued to marvel at this ridiculous line outside the Casino Ballroom, a venue which hosts shows nearly every night of the week. They had never SEEN such a line. No, idiot Glamberts, it is not because the ONLY REAL LIVING RAWK GAWD came to town and EVERYONE NEEDS TO SEE HIM. I mean, it IS but not for THAT reason. It’s because STUPID IDOL FANTARDS ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO START LINING UP AT DAWN FOR A GENERAL FRAKING ADMISSION SHOW. Even the townspeople wondered why you were STANDING IN LINE FOR OVER 12 HOURS.

No, silly. It is not some nifty new livestock facility designed by Temple Grandin. (Speaking of, why is it that HBO always lets the most irritating mediocre actresses in my age bracket play leads in their Emmy-bait docudramas? Drew Barrymore doing that bullshit accent in Grey Gardens and this year, Clare Danes being as annoying as usual, fully channeling the deer-in-headlights method developed by Elisabeth Shue while also playing an autistic? So HBO, what is on the slate for 2011? Mena Suvari as Eleanor Holm? Alyson Hannigan as Ava Gardner?) It is GLAMNATION! And it has arrived in Hampton Beach!

Soon, Short Stuff and I would be on the INSIDE. That’s right. We would make it inside the venue. Security cared more about me having an SLR (a camera with a removable lens is a no-no) then whether or not I was packing a half-pint of spiced rum. We would find the smoking section, located outdoors and in between the buses. We would each drink a Mudslide. We would each wonder about the safety of children, whether or not someone would be able to climb a staircase, but most of all, we thought about Adam Lambert and wondered what goes through his head when he takes the stage and gets his first glimpse of the crowd.

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  • streeta

    I think these women have something missing in their lives. They all look boring so maybe their lives are boring too. Idol makes it okay for them to act like a teens because there are other women their own age doing the same crap.

    For most of them its harmless. The super pathetic ones will go through their money chasing Adam/Cook/other guy around the U.S. I guess some wreck their marriages. For some reason alot of them go lesbian. I guess after all the time they spend talking dirty about Adam/Cook/other guy with other women on the Internet it kind of makes sense.

    It’s still weird though.

    • JaneRochester

      Streeta, you’re hilarious. How old are you?

    • Blue Eyes

      That was true in Taylor Hicks fanbase. Someone posted photos of his fans touching each other on a bed doing lesbian stuff. They were puke worthy. They were also masturbating with a doll. Not sure if they turned fully lesbian or were curious. I believe they were all married and have kids.

      I think this happens because they share hotel rooms while stalking their Idol, plus the dirty talk, plus the slash fanfic crap.

      It is truly bizarre.

      • http://topidolblog.com TopIdol

        WHOA. BACKUP.

        Where are these photos? I do recall hearing something about Ace Young fans and an inflatable doll, but nothing about Soul Patrol. I mean, I’m not all that surprised but uh…just as I’m sitting down for dinner? ;)

        • et

          Soul Patrol! Soul Patrol!

          Poor Taylor. I actually kinda like the guy but Soul Patrol! Soul Patrol!

        • Blue Eyes

          The photos were in a blog and the blog was eventually deleted. I guess the author of that blog had it in for this group of lesbian women and wanted to expose and embarrass them. I didn’t steal any of the photos, but I’m sure somebody has them. This was a couple of years ago.

          Then someone gave Idletard the photos of the lesbian fans in bed and she wrote a blog about them. She probably still has the photos. The doll was one of those Bert/Ernie dolls from Sesame Street. I remember they made Taylor, and his grandmother, hold the doll at a meet and greet and took photos. Ewww, so disgusting!

          There was lots of drama in this fanbase. Not only are they your typical Idol fat frauen fans, they are the most disgusting, meanest, back-stabbing and vicious fans I’ve ever seen. I was never involved in the drama, but it sure was fun to watch.

    • comer

      So is Lee next to inherit this precious, adoring fanbase? lol

      • JaneRochester

        I hope not. I don’t want him going ballistic on their asses.

      • Pandora

        I think they’ve adopted Casey this year.

        • et

          Haha, I read some blog post about him and read the comments — people seem to think Casey needs lots of mamas :) I’ve never seen such… motherly posts. I haven’t ever looked at his twitter feed, maybe I should do that. He’s such a Pollyanna, I don’t know how you could even tweet the guy anything obscene.

  • OMGOMGOMG

    I want part 2 NOW

    • comer

      Me too. TI, ou est part deux? :)

    • Pandora

      Part deux, s’il vous plait? Je voudrai maintenant!

  • Blue Eyes

    I think it’s sad how Idol preys on the middle-age demographic and how easy they are taken in. Most of these women haven’t been around music in years, so they are letting a TV show tell them who’s good?

    How anybody can spend all their money supporting an Idol is beyond insanity. Think of all the money some of the OTT BSCs have spent – well into the thousands and thousands…cd’s, downloads, fanclub membership, M&G’s, merchandise, concert tickets, travel, hotel, food (lots of food, lol!).

    Most of them are trying to relive their youth and think following an Idol will make them feel young and cool again. Trying to dress young when you are well past your prime, is not only tacky, but they look totally ridiculous.

    • rehabilitard

      It is funny, one of the glamberts posted this on AL fan board just the other day.

      “I think there’s a perception that Glamberts are a bunch of old, fat women trying to relive their lost youth whilst lusting after a gay man and having lengthy discussions about his body parts.”

      I think she got it right. ;)

      • et

        Haha, really, that’s hilarious that one of them posted that.

      • Blue Eyes

        LOL! She got that right!

        Maybe it’s the cougar thing? It’s gotten out of hand and now makes women look desperate and ridiculous. Where are these women’s dignity and self-respect?

        • jukejoint

          I suspect the whole dignity and self-respect thing isn’t a high priority for those who threw themselves off buildings for Rudolph Valentino or spent their last dime to see Liberace or screamed and cried for Elvis in his white jumpsuit phase or thought they would die if they couldn’t get backstage to meet David Cassidy or Donny Osmond or anybody else who flipped their switches in an irrational way. There’s something in the human brain that gets turned off at a certain point. You can call it lust or craziness or mass hysteria… I honestly don’t know. Maybe some of these ladies haven’t had time for an over-the-top crush since Donny or David. Maybe Idol and William Hung and the Crying Girl and the Bikini Girl encourage craziness in Idol viewers or even make them feel that celebrity and attention come from dressing like you have a day pass from the Shady Acres Asylum and a gift card for the trashiest store at the mall.

          I don’t think it’s just old people or fat people. I think it’s a nationwide phenomenon.

          • ross

            Sorry, I still don’t know how to post a picture but I thought this was interesting: some Liberace fans with their idol:

            http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_tFk9wtrDGZo/SBj1a5taQeI/AAAAAAAAA9I/5htpJSuAEqg/s400/liberace.jpg

          • Blue Eyes

            Yeah, but for some reason you can forgive a younger person for having a celebrity crush, but when that person is middle-age or grandma, has a family and a husband, just seems very weird to me. I wonder if these married women are in bad marriages and their husbands don’t pay any attention to them. There has to be a reason why you ignore real life for fastasy.

          • Blue Eyes

            That should be “fantasy”.

          • Blue Eyes

            HAHAHAHA! If the nuns only knew! Or maybe they did?!?

          • On The Edge

            Blue Eyes, I think a lot of these women got married and had children VERY young. Not that there’s anything wrong with that (look at Kris and Katy…NOT turning this into one of “those” threads, just using them as an example), but they didn’t get to be a independent, free twenty-something. They quite literally went from their parents’ house to their husband’s house (some with a stretch of college in-between, where they probably met future husband freshman year). I don’t see anything wrong with having a small celeb crush, thinking an actor or singer is “hot,” etc. It’s human nature to find other people attractive even when in a committed relationship. It’s what keeps stuff like “Playboy” in business. But when that turns into a buy-every-record, go-to-every-concert thing, THAT’S what I mean. Forget reliving their youth…these women are trying to live a youth they never had.

          • http://topidolblog.com TopIdol

            OTE, I would suspect you are definitely correct. It is some sort of mid-life crisis thing akin to say, men buying sports cars. Heh. But I do think a large amount of these women missed out on the time in their youth when they were supposed to be well, young.

          • Blue Eyes

            On The Edge, that makes sense to me. I think you are right about that.

            But, I do think some of them are in need of attention and they are not getting it at home. Lots of people marry young but they don’t turn to celeb crushes to fulful a need. Something is missing from these women’s lives that they are not getting in real life.

        • On The Edge

          UGH, don’t even…it used to be that a “cougar” was a very specific type of woman that went after MUCH younger men. Now “cougar” has come to mean ANY women over 40 and is starting to even bleed over to late 30′s (fuck me, I’M in my late 30′s! SHIT!). I think the real “cougars” need to beat these BSC overweight frauen over the head for usurping the term…Samantha Jones would NOT approve.

          • et

            Bah, that whole cougar thing. It’s supposed to be women hunting youngsters (like my neighbor who is 47 and is hooking up with a 21 year old).

          • Blue Eyes

            That’s what I thought, too. That Samantha Jones is the cougar type…the sexy, attractive older women, looking for younger men, not the overweight, ugly women.

          • ross

            This stuff is nothing new, as jukebox said. Like Van Johnson, during the WWII years. He was big with the teens, but also with the grandmas, who adored him. I think it’s normal, it’s human nature. Just because your body gets old or you get fat, or whatever – your mind is still the same. But like people have said, when it gets into online discussions of the guy’s junk, or if women write about songs giving them orgasms, and that kind of shit – ugh! Have some dignity, ladies, for chrissakes.

          • caspar

            Van Johnson, eh? Just how old are you, ross?!!

            Yeah, fan crushing has been around forever, but obviously, having the internets spewing out tweets from the idol, images, YouTubes, access to every written word about the idol- makes it much more all-consuming and intense and easy, if the fan wants to get into it that much. Big difference from mooning over dog-eared copies of Tiger Beat that came out once a MONTH, and a few vinyl records that get spun until they’re all scratchy.

          • et

            Yeah, see, it’s normal to have little crushes on celebrities or think people are hot – no matter what your age, or if you’re happily married, or whatever. It’s when it gets to the point that you squeeze into your leather bustier 3 sizes too small and camp out overnight to get in the front row so you can grab your Idol’s junk that you have something wrong with you, and when you leave your family behind so you can go to every show, and spend every penny on CDs/t-shirts/concerts that’s just not normal. Or when you take that “crush” to a fantasy level that has you tweeting them that you want to make babies with them. Ick.

          • et

            caspar, that’s a really good point. We never had that kind of access to our celebrity crushes back in the day – I mean, Michael Jackson doing “Billie Jean” on my *TV* was a big deal (and yes, like every other middle schooler, I adored him). You didn’t have the internet to help you get way too invested in their lives, and they didn’t have Twitter/Facebook/whatever to give people the feeling of being close to them. And I still believe that the whole “I voted for you” thing about Idol gives people some weird sense of entitlement/ownership over these people — like “I made you, now you owe me.”

            Sigh, Tiger Beat. I know I got some of my oodles of John Taylor posters from Tiger Beat.

            (Dated myself again)

          • Blue Eyes

            Please tell me that it’s not the over-the-hill, middle age woman that wants to make a baby with them!?!!

          • et

            Blue Eyes, in one of my scary meanders through Cook’s twitter feed (c’mon, you need popcorn for it, and I admit to getting bored sometimes) I *seriously* saw a woman tweet him that if she hadn’t gone through menopause she’d want to have his babies. *Ack*

          • http://topidolblog.com TopIdol

            I think he should have a say in the matter, ya know? ;)

            Just ICKY.

          • Blue Eyes

            I honestly have no words, but I have seen similair tweets and posts saying stuff like “you made my ovaries burst” or “I just had an orgasm listening to your music”. These posts make me feel icky.

          • ross

            These posts make me feel icky.

            Me too. What is nice about that? It’s just – ick.

            Van Johnson, eh? Just how old are you, ross?!!

            Hey, jukejoint mentioned Valentino and I don’t think she actually saw him in person or anything! Sheesh. :) I like movie history.

            Wait. I did see Van Johnson in person, once. I was about 11 or 12. I went with my parents to see a play at the Ogunquit Playhouse in Ogunquit, Maine. Afterwards my mom and I met him at the stage door. (I’ve always been a fan of old movies. Even then.) He did the bit with my mom about, “What? This can’t be your mother! I thought it was your sister.” Tongue in cheek, of course.

            Afterwards, my mother, who had shaken his hand, actually said the line, “I’ll never wash this hand again.” (And she never has, of course.)

            Anyhow, I think it’s not unusual if the older ones like the younger ones, but I agree with Blue Eyes on those *graphic* posts. Fine if you feel that way, but, um, no one wants to hear about it.

            Also, I guess I think it’s a bit bizarre when it gets to the “I’ll follow him to Asia on his tour” stage. Hey, it’s probably unusal I stopped Cale and talked to him as he walked by, at that Mixfest concert a few weeks ago. But I kind of have a history of meeting people after shows. I’ve been doing that since I was a kid, and I still do it once in a while. Also, I think they enjoy it as well – to get some appreciation from individual fans – if you don’t make it all about some weird fantasy relationship that only exists in your mind.

            The fact is I think we all feel a little intrigued by celebs and enjoy being in the same room, and the excitement of a live concert, etc. And I think it’s cool Adam has a lot of fans. Whatever. Earlier I was just remarking on how funny it is to me he has these ladies on walkers that come to his shows. I’m not making fun of them; I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. That’s not the point.

            It just has to do with the disconnect between this and, say, Rolling Stone declaring him the only truly current star of season 8 who has anything musically relevant to say. As well as the “Wild Idol.” I’m sorry but I enjoy the fact that their idea of the wild idol is a hit with so many fraus and grandmas (and great- grandmas). I wonder if they’re embarrassed by their overenthusiasm. I mean, I find this funny because I never agreed with what they were saying to begin with, I guess. I admit it feels a little like payback for all the crap I had to read where I felt I was being force-fed this whole line I didn’t think was accurate.

          • DeeDee

            I saw a video of Kris where before he starts singing, a girl (I reeaaally hope it was a girl) told him she wanted to have his babies! He made a joke of it, asking if she really said that or if she said he has rabies. Then he tells her that either way she needs to stay far away from him. Can you imagine someone actually saying that directly to the artist? Thats a lot worse than tweeting it I think.

          • Pandora

            I actually think tweeting it is worse.

            Someone who says it out loud is at least willing to be associated in public with their comment, and is willing to “face the music” of dealing with the artist’s reaction. Whereas a tweet is basically anonymous drive-by commenting.

          • DeeDee

            Although I think someone who says it out loud shows more “integrity” in their insanity than a tweeter, to me saying it directly to the artist is a bigger second hand embarrassment moment.

          • ross

            That’s nothing. There was a gig Kris did w/ Boys Like Girls, in Detroit, and the girls were yelling “I wanna fuck you” at him.

          • ross

            Girls get away with a lot. Can you see boys yelling that at a female performer? They’d throw them out.

    • comer

      DeeDee, I think the person yelling those things was a guy. LOL Here’s the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdxvZJKk0GE. After “I want your babies”, he yells “I want your body”. It sounds like a guy to me, haha. Either way, I think Kris did a good job of making a joke out of the whole thing.

      • DeeDee

        I think you’re right! Either way he didn’t even miss a beat. Too funny.

  • streeta

    Idol fans are the reason no one takes most people from Idol seriously. Who cares if you’re selling out shows if mostly middled aged fat ladies go to them. The same ladies that go to Soap Opera conventions or Tupperware parties (if people still do those things.)

    Madam has completely vanished from the main stream press. No one cares about him and his tour except Idol bloggers. Oh well, maybe he can walk away with some change before he hits Broadway in about three years if he’s lucky.

    • ross

      streeta, your monster looks like it’s doing a John Travolta dance move from Saturday Night Fever.

    • muzikizmi

      Madam has completely vanished from the main stream press.

      He always mimics whoever just got a lot of publicity. The last one was the tongue diving after Gaga’s crowd surfing. Fantasia did Aspirin, so maybe he will take three Tylenol and need to have his stomach pumped. Fantasia hid in her closet though, and Madam probably shouldn’t go there.

      • muzikizmi

        Ooops, sorry, I messed up my quote. The first sentence is quoting Streeta.

  • Tw!sted_S!ster

    lmao. This recap just made my night after hours of study. I’m going to Glamnation tour this September with a friend who likes Adam too. I told him about Glamberts and he is a little bit scared and curious at the same time. It is gonna be a blast.

    BTW I was thinking about this blog all day. I know you guys love Madmen. My school had an event today about the tv show called Not Just Mad Men, the Golden Age of Advertising. Fashion design students made different clothes from that time period and placed them on the lobby of the school, Visual Art students painted the walls with things from the show and a lot of other cool stuffs from the other majors. It was great. I bet you’ll love to see that. Too bad Hamm wasn’t there :( .

    • http://topidolblog.com TopIdol

      HA! That doc is on the Season 1 DVDs, I believe :)

  • RarelyC

    I tried to resist posting, but obviously to no avail. First, it is not a challenge to go to an AI concert and take pictures of fat, white people. That’s easy. A monkey with a camera and opposable thumbs could do it. Last year, I got tickets to see Jason Castro at a venue in Chicago, and my daughter met me inside. Her first words to me were: why are there a bunch of fat, middle-aged women waiting in line outside? She said this in all innocence and without snark or malevolence. It was a question of a babe in the woods. Second, for those who say Adam could go to Broadway, my response is: then why didn’t he? He’s been around musical theater for effin’ ever, so why didn’t he mosey over to NYC before now? I have some theories as to why, but, regardless, that should be a last resort now. Broadway is not exactly the place for big cross-over artists. Not too many singers (as in, no one I can think of) does Broadway and Pop. You get too many bad habits as a Broadway musical theater star to cross over to Pop, and (perhaps) too many bad habits as a Pop star to cross over to Broadway (not to mention, that if you’re a Pop star you don’t need Broadway — it’s like the “third rail” for a recording artist). Third, the only AI concert I went to was last year’s because I am a big Kris Allen fan. And I am just going to say this, no matter how petty and harsh it sounds: the demo and vibe of an AI tour concert is just weird. Creepy and weird (recognizing that I was there with them and have no basis to say I’m any better). I enjoyed the concert and the performances, but the demo is odd. That is probably the nature of reality tv. And, finally, as to Daughtry and Cook, I think they are both fine, but I can tell you this: no self-respecting college kid would EVER EVER say they are a fan of Daughtry or Cook. Even if they were/are, they would never say it. I have scores of college kids streaming through my house, and, if I know one thing, that’s what I know. Daughtry and Cook appeal to an older demo, which is not a criticism but a fact. (Oh, a little postscript: I have been to several Kris Allen concerts, and among the things that give me optimism for his career — other than his talent — is the demo that he seems to attract.)

    • et

      Hey, at the one Cook show I went to we had *self-loathing* chubby middle-aged women – the one in line behind me took a look at the line (and herself) and said, “I feel so bad for David Cook, he deserves SO much better than this.” Heh. (Now I did happen to stand beside two older teen/young 20s/younger than me but I can’t tell how old boys and two girls in the same age group — but I also had two 50+-ers behind me who were drunk as skunks and kept falling into me).

    • http://topidolblog.com TopIdol

      CORRECT! No self-respecting college kid with musical taste (or self-described musical taste) would ever be into Cook or Daughtry. I’m not ripping on either of them, but as RarelyC said, it’s the truth.

      • et

        Do you still have to listen to “edgy” music to be a musically-cool college kid? All I would listen to was stuff from MTV 120 minutes (man, that was a good show) like Pearl Jam & Nirvana before they were more mainstream (yes, I’m dating myself here) and then I loved the Indigo Girls, Sundays, etc., etc. Well, still do – that’s all good stuff.

        • http://topidolblog.com TopIdol

          MUSIC WAS BETTER BACK THEN!!

          I just dated myself.

          • et

            I still listen to so much of the music I listened to in college… it’s just good. Good hip hop, too, even though maybe it was weird that a bunch of white chicks were listening to Public Enemy (but Flavor Flav – I mean, yeaaaaah boooyyy!)? I loved (and love) De la Soul and Tribe Called Quest and Cypress Hill…

            Hmm, I might end up driving around in my minivan (yes, I’ve shed the last vestiges of hipness) blasting old school hip hop this afternoon. Heh.

          • auntieaimee

            Hip hop was better back then! Rap has sucked ever since Tupac and Biggie died. :(

          • caspar

            I MUST point out that many (perhaps a majority) of the posters here admit to being (way) over 30 and er, not slim. So why is there so much ripping on overweight middle aged ladies as Idol audiences- or anyone’s audience, really? Many of you are clearly very smart, hilrious, well-educated, hip, and have a substantial musical background. But if you stand in line at a Cook/Allen/Lambert show, you look pretty much like everyone else in line. Maybe you’re better-dressed? Does that absolve you of some ‘blame’ for being un-young and un-thin? Sorry, but I just hate to see women thinking of themselves this way.
            These guys need to attract guys to their shows. Will they come, if we stay away?

          • Blue Eyes

            I think middle-age fat women should act their age and dress themselves appropriately – period. Why do they want to dress like a teenager when they don’t have the body for it? Hey, if you’re past 40 and are not fat and in good shape and get your hair done and fix yourself up, then go for it.

            Nothing wrong for an older women to like music and attend a concert, but it’s OTT antics that makes people point and laugh.

          • http://topidolblog.com TopIdol

            One of my parents’ good friends, the woman is 70 and her favorite band is Coldplay. Her and her daughter see Coldplay whenever they come to St. Louis and Chicago.

            I think this is ADORABLE. It’s adorable because it is slightly random, and Mrs. Morganough does not dress up like an emo Brit for the show (or attempt to) and they don’t paint things on their cars.

            I plan on staying young as long as I possibly can. It’s the OTT behavior that runs rampant in Idolfanlandia which is what makes it a curiosity.

          • ross

            I MUST point out that many (perhaps a majority) of the posters here admit to being (way) over 30 and er, not slim. So why is there so much ripping on overweight middle aged ladies as Idol audiences- or anyone’s audience, really. Many of you are clearly very smart, hilrious, well-educated, hip, and have a substantial musical background. But if you stand in line at a Cook/Allen/Lambert show, you look pretty much like everyone else in line. Maybe you’re better-dressed? Does that absolve you of some ‘blame’ for being un-young and un-thin? Sorry, but I just hate to see women thinking of themselves this way. These guys need to attract guys to their shows. Will they come, if we stay away?

            I don’t know anything about David Cook’s audience. I’ve seen pictures of the audience at Kris Allen’s headlining shows on several occasions and they are definitely a different-looking crowd than what I’ve seen of Adam’s audience. I don’t think we can lump these fans together in this case.

            I like the idea of people of all ages and types attending concerts. It ought to be that way.

            What’s ironic to me is that Adam’s fans are always claiming he attracts such a diverse audience, and then TI posts a picture inside the venue with almost identical-looking women as far as the eye can see.

          • margie

            I just turned 29 last week so I have one year left til I join the 30 crowd and I didn’t cry in my cornflakes at the thought. Age is just a number to me atleast. Anyway I don’t think it about age and being female. It is that these women go out looking like fools. I would hope someone would tell me I look ridiculous. Who wants to be laughed and mocked at seriously?

          • rehabilitard

            Nothing is wrong with getting older but with the age supposed to come the wisdom, which is “……..comprehension of what is true or right coupled with optimum judgment as to action.”….also “…wisdom often requires control of one’s emotional reactions”
            I am sorry, but I don’t see it in OTT older idol fans.

          • caspar

            I agree that inappropriately-dressed and unkempt fans of any age or sex who also act like idiots are fun to mock, and not desireable to any performer. But the vast majority of the folks in those pics up top would not attract any notice on the streets of any town or city in the US.
            As I have stated many times, I AM (maybe)an 18 year old MAC model, but for sure I am a size 2 who dresses like it’s 2010, so it’s not that I should have any reason to feel embarrassed at an Idol’s concert. And yet, somehow, I get the impression that I should be.

          • DeeDee

            I am a middle aged woman of average weight. I went to Adam’s concert this week in capris and a black t-shirt. I don’t think I looked ridiculous and I’m not going to apologize for still enjoying music at my age. However there were quite a few (not a majority) of middle aged women there trying to look like they were 25 years old. I saw chubby women squeezing themselves into leather minidresses with high-heeled black boots. They were sporting glittered eyeshadow and in general just trying too damn hard. There were young people there (maybe 20%) but the majority were older women (and men) and families.

          • http://topidolblog.com TopIdol

            That doesn’t sound like something inappropriate in the least! It seems like normal attire one would wear to a concert. I was amazed by how many women I saw in jean shorts, sneakers, sweats. At least run a brush through your hair. And the homemade puffy paint stuff, that sort of thing…still not sure how that is “glam,” but to each their own, I guess.

          • et

            But if you stand in line at a Cook/Allen/Lambert show, you look pretty much like everyone else in line. Maybe you’re better-dressed?

            Well, yeah. I’m chubby (but have challenged myself to lose 50 lbs by Race for Hope so wish me luck on that one because bad habits are tough to break but dammit I’m doing it with eating right and exercise this time so it sticks) and 37 and I do NOT try to squeeze myself into clothes for a 22 year old, nor do I stand on my chair and scream I LOVE YOU DAVID, nor do I stand in the front row and grope him… So I think that’s really the thing, is that some of these gals just do not act appropriately for their age. I don’t feel ashamed at all that I go to see live music, nor do I feel ashamed that I go to David Cook shows. I don’t get out much since real life is booked up with kids and soccer and rescue. I have a friend my age who also is nice and normal and doesn’t try to wear miniskirts and glitter ;) and we go together and have a blast. Couple beers, enjoy the show, and it’s great. I’ve always loved live music and don’t plan to stop going anytime soon. DEFINITELY I think that you should still go have a good time no matter what your age is. Just act like a grownup – and dress for your body type/weight/looks instead of trying to go to Forever 21 and squish into little girls’ clothes.

            I don’t like, at all, the whole “all those fat middle-aged women should be ashamed to go to shows” notion. It’s stupid. But *definitely* I find it amusing (and often just sad) when people do things like, oh, proposition David on Twitter and tell him that if they hadn’t gone through menopause they’d want to have his baby (I do not jest).

          • deez

            Just act like a grownup – and dress for your body type/weight/looks instead of trying to go to Forever 21 and squish into little girls’ clothes.

            Exactly! The problem is not age or weight…it’s a total lack of self-awareness.

        • On The Edge

          et, I think we must be the same age cause that’s what I listened to…as well as Toad The Wet Sprocket, The Connells, Better Than Ezra, Dash Rip Rock, Drivin N Cryin, The Story, Everything But The Girl. I worked in college radio in the early 90s, I earned my cred.

          And yet I still like David Cook. Eh, fuck it I like Katy Perry too. We can’t have perfect taste.

          • et

            Ooh, I just found my Toad the Wet Sprocket Dulcinea CD the other day packed away in a box of old college stuff and I can’t stop listening to it. *Windmills* – love.

            And I, of course, like David Cook, too. But then again, I’m too old to give a damn if anyone thinks I’m cool or not ;) My music tastes are all over the place but that stuff from the college years… just really, really good music. I remember going to Tower Records in DC and picking up Pearl Jam (on cassette, no less, I’m so old) and just falling in love with “Black,” which happens to still be one of my favorite songs ever. Of course now I found a big box of cassettes and my kids said, “Mom, what are THOSE?” I sprouted wrinkles and some gray hairs right on the spot…

          • margie

            One of my roomates was from North Carolina and was in love with The Connell’s. Had every type of cd, live recording, etc of theirs. I loved the song 74-75 by them. I don’t think they were still touring by the time I was in college though. I always wanted to see them live.

          • margie

            Did you follow Widespread Panic OnTheEdge? That was what we did during the summer. I saw them live an embarrassingly amount of times.

          • On The Edge

            Margie, I didn’t follow them but I’ve seen them live and knew Jojo from his days in Beanland.

          • Legend

            What age is it exactly that you are supposed to start listening to Lawrence Welk? Is it wrong for, say, someone in their 40′s to listen to Top 40 radio and like Bruno Mars , Ke$ha and Katy Perry songs? Do you wait until your 50 to switch to the Lawrence Welk or 60?

            BTW, I will always love Toad the Wet Sprockets cover of Kiss’ I Want to Rock and Roll and Better Than Ezra’s This Time of Year even after I have to start listening to Lawrence.

          • http://topidolblog.com TopIdol

            I’ve always loved Tom Jones and Glenn Miller, so I’m probably the wrong person to ask ;)

          • et

            Never, Legend, never! You just should at some point probably be grown up enough to know your body type and your age and dress appropriately :)

            I still listen to Top 40 radio when it doesn’t hurt my ears and have a real fondness for B.O.B…. I’m just old enough now to listen to whatever I like and not care about what is hip and what isn’t. I’ve got music on my iPod ranging from way back to Ray Charles and Nat King Cole all the way to Jason Derulo and B.O.B. from 2010. I just love music and my tastes are all over the place.

          • jukejoint

            Aren’t the people for whom Lawrence Welk is age-appropriate all dead?

            My parents (no longer with us) never watched the Lawrence Welk Show. My mom was all about Frank Sinatra and Mario Lanza, and my dad liked Johnny Cash. My father-in-law does really like Andre Rieu, though, and I think he’s kind of the Lawrence Welk for the 21st century.

            I am over 50, and the age-appropriate music for me would be James Taylor, Carole King and Bruce Springsteen. I love them, but if I have to be limited to them, then all those 20-somethings who like Dylan and the Beatles are going to have to give them up. Too old for you, kids!

            Yeah, except music doesn’t work that way or everybody would have to burn all their classical music. Mozart is too old for you! And I wouldn’t get to listen to Nat King Cole’s “Stardust” or Fred Astaire’s “Fascinating Rhythm” and then I would die.

            I realize that you were trying to be snarky and ironical there, Legend, but people have said again and again that it’s not about what music you like or what concerts you go to, but about having some sense in how you dress and how you behave. I suppose you can be a 1000-pound man and a huge Miley Cyrus fan and decide that clothes are too binding and you’d like to go naked to your next Miley concert. Or you could be a size 0 20-year-old MAC model who wants to wear a Ronald McDonald outfit to go stand in the front row for Eminem. You can do that, and you might get arrested, or you might get a lot of people making fun of you. That’s the risk you took when you made that decision.

          • caspar

            Aren’t the people for whom Lawrence Welk is age-appropriate all dead? If they are, then how come my PBS station runs The Lawrence Welk Show every frakkin Saturday night for an hour? The dead can’t donate, so…huh?

          • ross

            They took Geritol and lived forever.

    • muzikizmi

      (Oh, a little postscript: I have been to several Kris Allen concerts, and among the things that give me optimism for his career — other than his talent — is the demo that he seems to attract

      RarelyC, you are right that Kris draws a younger crowd. I have seen Kris in concert twice, and did not think to photograph the crowd. I will next time, for sure. He is getting his best reviews from both the crowd and critics, while opening for Maroon5.

      • undercooked

        I don’t know, I saw some pics of Kris’ crowd at Six Flags and there were a lot of middle aged women. I know it’s nice to believe one’s fav is exempt from drawing the same AI middle aged crowd, eh, but I just don’t see it. I do suspect Kris’s middle aged following, however, is mellower. Adam has a good percentage of MAW who are OTT as does Cook. And before anyone says Cook’s crowd isn’t like Adam’s, I have two words for you…fuc bunnies.

        Right now, Adam, Kris, Cook, etc., are attracting a large percentage of TV AI fans. These are the emotionally invested fans who seem (to me) to be projecting their problems, frustrations, fantasies etc., on to these guys. Oh, and persecution complexes….don’t get me started on that.

        So is this all doom and gloom for the boys? I don’t think so. I think these guys need the TV fans to help get their careers launched. These fans help them sell enough to get the second album. I wish it weren’t the case, but it seems like record labels who sign AI alum will drop them pronto if their first album doesn’t generate enough revenue. With the time restrictions on putting out the first album, all these guys can do is get through it and keep the eye on the prize. That’s why I think the second album and tour will be more telling. If they put out some quality albums and smash singles they will attract a more diverse crowd. There is nothing wrong with having middle aged fans, and most middle aged fans act appropriately. But they need a younger crowd for career longevity.

        By the way, what does Daughtry’s crowd look like? Has his audience gotten more diverse? I haven’t been to any of his concerts so I don’t know.

        • Blue Eyes

          I was at a Daughtry concert in July. The crowd was very diverse. Sure, there was some middle-age people, but also tons of younger 17-39 age group. Did not see any blue-haired grandmas.

          • DeeDee

            The crowd for Kris’ concert at the Borgata was very diverse. I saw an elderly woman with a walker and a older man in a wheelchair. There were a lot of couples of all ages and middle aged women too of course. But you are right the middle aged crowd was very sedate. I was however truly shocked at how many young people were there (a lot of young, pretty girls). They were the ones on the floor in front of the stage screaming LOL. I think Rickey noted in his recap how many young people were there.

          • Blue Eyes

            Opps, my Daughtry concert was in June, not July.

        • rehabilitard

          I am not KA fan, in fact, I was AL fan during idol, and I have to say that it is true that Kris attracts younger audience . I didn’t see any overweight grandmas dressed in lace & leather at KA concert and there were plenty at Glamnation one.

          • margie

            I went to the Kris/Maroon 5 concert last night and the crowd was very diverse. I know you can’t really base anything of this crowd. Fun concert btw!! I think Kris works great with the Maroon 5 audience. Heard no complaining. :)

          • ross

            I can’t disagree, undercooked. I’m sure Kris has a lot of middle aged and even older fans, having been on Idol. I’m one of the middle aged ones.

            But having observed and talked to a lot of Kris fans at three concerts (Idols concert, two radio concerts), the main thing that struck me was how many young, attractive, well-dressed-and-groomed girls and women are his fans. If you go to one of his shows it’s impossible not to notice how many of them there are.

            Six Flags, Borgata, The Social in Orlando(were there any older people there?) are all different venues. Some are free shows, some are paying. Adam is on his own headlining tour so it’s probably easier to figure out who his core audience is – though that probably varies by region, or venue, as well.

          • On The Edge

            I wish I could have gone. Yes I’ve seen Kris already but I would have liked Maroon 5 too. Plus I’ve been to a TON of concerts at Mud Island and it’s a GREAT venue. I’ve seen everyone from the Beach Boys to Sarah McLachlan to Aretha Franklin. And there’s no better place to see Jimmy Buffett short of the Gulf Coast itself.

          • margie

            On The Edge, it was an awesome show. The weather was perfect too. :)
            Kris sounded great and the reaction I heard was most people were impressed! I am a Maroon 5 fan and this was my first time seeing them. They are really good live. You are correct about Mud Island Amp. Great venue and like you seen numerous shows there.

  • ophelia64

    These people. I don’t know where to start. I’m something of a people watcher, and I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a group like this. Of course, I try to avoid any demolition derby I may catch wind of, and I would never be caught dead or alive at a wrestling match or roller derby. Maybe, just maybe I’ve seen something like this on “People of Wal-mart” which, what a great site by the way. Hmmm. Okay, the woman with the fence on her butt, is that really her hair? I thought it was a scarf or something. And what is on her legs? argyle socks? strange diamond-shape covered boots? And, in the picture with the two women in highly inappropriate leggings for their age and body type (build? weight?), what is up with the woman next to them in the ruffled top and fuscia bra? Who would put on something like that when already, um, large in that part of her anatomy? Then we have a man with dice on his back, the girl with the 80′s ripped-ass jeans and, well, like I said where to start? where to stop? Please someone tell me that this is not the norm for most idol alums.

  • streeta

    They look like the same people who go to the AI tour to me. And probably some of the same people went to Cook’s shows although Adam seems to get more children.

    Adam needs young people not old ladies at his shows. But he made his bed I guess. Once they start milking the fans for the merchandise and charging them to join the fan club I guess they can’t go back. It’s like they know the OTT ones will always support them so why try to expand the fan base.

    Adam and Cook are sadly in the same boat. Their fans are still basically the same badly dressed fraus and tweens that voted for them on Idol.

    • ophelia64

      Oh, and Streeta, I kind of love your monster, with your robot legs, waving hand, sexy antenae and tiny tongue. Makes me a bit jealous. Not quite Ross’ horny, crazy-eyed tomato love, but close.

  • FreeDavidCook

    So if I rush down to Wal Mart and get a pair of too tight leggings and a hideous oversized top I’ll be styling and profiling with the Sparkle Cows when they arrive in Virginia on Friday? Tempted to cruise the area and take Herd pics but I’ll need to visit Pig Fart, err, Wal Mart first?

    • Pandora

      Not quite. You need the too-tight leggings AND a too-tight long top. Or else light-blue mom jeans.

    • margie

      I shouldn’t be laughing at Pig-fart and Walmart, but I am. First you just insulted my college mascot..shame FreeDavidCook…shame!!! :) I wish I did live in a state where wasn’t a Walmart every 2.5 miles but I don’t. The Waltons own Arkansas.

      • margie

        hit reply to soon

        Go with the leggings and any big blue or purple sparkly top. Also buy all the feather accessories and glitter make up you can find. You will fit right in. You will be one with the sparkle cows. :)

        • FreeDavidCook

          There’s a big difference between Razorbacks and plain old pigs! Go Razorbacks!

    • jukejoint

      I think it’s the Home Shopping Network. I was flipping channels the other day and saw a sequined cardigan worn with stretchy leggings (available up to a 3X!) that screamed Glambert of a Certain Age. There was even a little sequined hat!

      http://fashion.hsn.com/completely-me-by-liz-lange-sequined-hat_p-6060254_xp.aspx

    • et

      Hmm, I don’t know about the oversized top. Glittery bustier?

      • JaneRochester

        Ok, well. I’m going to the Idols concert in Chicago on Saturday. Needless to say, I will now be paying at least as much attention to the audience as I will the performers. Will report back as thoroughly as I can.

        I plan to get there at 5–not to visit the barricades, but to beat nasty traffic and then avail myself of one of the towns MANY FABULOUS restaurants. Gawd, I wish Big Mike and Casey could come with me.

        FTR, I’m very short, could stand to drop a few but don’t believe I qualify as chubby (tho I could be deluded—I’ve long suspected my mirror lies to me. Is that possible?), and will be 48 on the next birthday. I’m wearing jeans, sneaks, and a top yet to be determined but will probably be boring/classic (depending on your demographic). Possibly my Cubs tshirt. No fanny pack.

        • deez

          CUBS? Aaaaaack!!!!!!

          Wear a White Sox jersey!

          • JaneRochester

            Who?

          • deez

            OK then, a Cardinals jersey :) .

          • JaneRochester

            *snort*

  • Blue Eyes

    Middle-age chubby women wearing leggings?!? Even in black, that looks horrible! Don’t women own full-length mirrors or know someone to tell them how bad they look?

    • margie

      I don’t think leggings look good on anyone who isn’t stick thin, tall and has no butt/curves. Leggings are not your friend in hiding parts you want hidden…lol :)

      • FreeDavidCook

        If you’re not a stick thin teenager then the ONLY appropriate wearing of leggings is either a) under ski pants on the slopes for layering or b) at the gym. Everywhere else vorboten!

        • wino

          LOL, but here in LA, everyone wears them…teens, those in their 20s, 30s, 40s. American Apparel is our friend :)

  • caspar

    I still think Adam would be a huge B’way star if somebody wrote a halfway decent musical based on Freddie Mercury’s life and times. A fake overbite, brown contacts and a fake mustache and he’d be perfect. Of course, it would still be repetitious, and he’d probably still get the audience of oldies, but it would be much higher profile than what he’s doing now. And he wouldn’t have to travel as much, plus he could still make albums in his off time; and he would be more marketable as a film actor, if that’s what he wants to do.
    I don’t know why I’m feeling so benevolent about his future, since I really can’t stand him and don’t care what happens to him, much.
    Where’s part Deux?!

    • Blue Eyes

      He’s definitely headed for Broadway. No doubt about it and that’s probably where he wanted to be anyway.

      • jukejoint

        I’m still not sure “Broadway” will want him, but if they think it will put butts in seats, Fran and Barry Weissler or some other stunt-casting producers will find a vehicle. Maybe he can play Constantine’s role in Rock of Ages. (Kidding!) There’ve already been at least one high profile show built around Queen (“We Will Rock You”), and Mig Ayesa, who was on Rock Star INXS, played one of the leads. I think Ty Taylor, another Rock Star contestant and maybe mentioned as a friend of Adam’s, was in the Vegas production. That’s different from a bio of Freddie Mercury, but if they did do a bio of Freddie Mercury, I’d think they’d go with Mig or something who’s already done the music.

        The Spider Man that was much ballyhooed (OMG! They totally want Adam to play the LEEEEEEEAD!!!!!111!!!!!!!!!11111!!!!!) may finally open without most of the cast that was initially announced, but as anybody with a brain already knew, Julie Taymor was going to use someone she already knew and liked. Reeve Carney, someone she’d worked with in “the Tempest,” was her choice. OF COURSE. It will be interesting to see if it succeeds with all the postponements and problems.

        Maybe Adam can play Peter Allen in a revival of “The Boy from Oz.” I think he’d be good at that.

        • Pandora

          I seem to recall the actual quote about Spiderman as that they were interested in having Adam come and audition. Which I understood to mean that they knew he existed and were willing to at least take a look at him.

          • jukejoint

            They were doing nationwide “auditions” as a promotional stunt. That was about six iterations ago in the whole Julie Taymor/Spider Man process. But, anyway, the guy who said that he knew about Adam and Adam was being considered was the one in charge of those nationwide “auditions” (i.e., cattle calls in various cities that never came off, anyway, I don’t think) and he really seemed to be looking for PR for his cattle calls, so he was willing to say that he loved Adam and Adam was on his radar and he definitely wanted to see him, because at that moment, Adam was getting a lot of buzz. But Julie Taymor, who is the director, wrote the book for the show and is doing all the masks/puppetry, never mentioned Adam. As I said, for a huge, troubled project like that one, she was very likely to use actors she already knew and had worked with and trusted, like Jim Sturgess, who was in “Across the Universe” or Reeve Carney, who she’d already used in “The Tempest.” That’s who she is and how she works.

            Doesn’t matter. But all the talk from the Glamnut gallery was ooooooooh, Broadway wants Adam so bad and here’s this guy from Spider Man talking about him and how they want to hand him the lead in Spider Man on Broadway!!!!!! I’m just saying I think it was a bunch of hot air.

      • rehabilitard

        According to Adam himself he wants to be a mega star. And this is from the latest interview with Larry Flick :
        “Adam confirms new album 2011 will continue with Whataya Want From Me & If I Had You sound”

        • jukejoint

          Good luck with that.

        • caspar

          Yeah, really, that’s good for maybe another year or so. The field is getting cluttered with the dance/pop/glitter purveyors, and most are more talented all around (ie, Ke&&%a-, yes, I know, but she and her mother write much better songs than Adam’s whole stable of writers).

          • DeeDee

            Did you mean Ke$ha? Is Blah, Blah,Blah considered a good song? Ugh.

          • http://topidolblog.com TopIdol

            Is that the song where she samples All the Girls in France / Wear tissue paper pants?

    • FreeDavidCook

      Oh please! NEVER and I mean NEVER utter the names ‘Adam Lambert’ and ‘Freddie Mercury’ together! It’s like saying Joe Dirt and Jesus. He is not fit to scoop out Freddie’s cats litter boxes.

      • muzikizmi

        Thank you FreeDC. Freddie Mercury wouldn’t be caught dead singing sappy pop songs, written by and for other people. Freddie wrote his own songs, and they weren’t (for the most part) sappy pop songs. I wonder if the fans who thought Adam was bringing back 80′s rock will keep hanging on. Maybe this is the way that Adam will jetison them.

  • Blue Eyes

    The pictures look like what you would get at a Idols Live show. This audience is a TV audience, so you get all kinds of people, but the majority are still kids, tweens and the over-40 crowd, because those are the people watching Idol.

    I’ve gone to many Indie rock artists shows and the crowds are much cooler. I’ve never seen a grannie in a walker or a middle-age housewife at the shows I’ve been at, because these artists are all about the music and haven’t been exposed to the riff-raff TV audience.

    • ross

      Actually it doesn’t look that much like the crowd at the Idols live show I went to (S8, the only one so far). Some of that crowd looked classier and better dressed, there were way more males, and there were way, way more teen boys and girls, and twentysomething girls. I really didn’t notice anyone who appeared to be over 60, either.

      • Blue Eyes

        The Idols shows I’ve been at were full of families with their kids, middle-age women and tween girls. Definitely not enough of the cooler college age kids or 20-30 age group. Only men I see are the dads going with their family to a show or a guy going with his girlfriend.

        Wasn’t talking about how they were dressed. I’ve seen poorly dressed younger women and well-dressed older women and vice-versa wherever I go. Some women know how to dress themselves and some of them don’t.

        • margie

          The only idol tour show I have been to was the one in Little Rock Season 8. The crowd was very mixed. Lot of people in there 20′s there plus a lot of families. It was a fun show. I was going to the show prepared to be bored out of my mind, but I had a great time. Maybe the booze helped..lol :)

        • rehabilitard

          The Idol show I have been to (season 8) was full of teens and preetens with their parents. Especially the section where I was sitting. Most of them were cheering for Danny Gokey, lol.
          Family next to me left right after he was done singing and before Glittery Rawk Gawd came on the stage.
          Glamnation crowd was totally different. There were some mothers with preteen daughters, but they were wearing such a heavy make up it was hard to tell where is mother and where is daughter. I don’t mind older crowd, music is for everybody, but please, don’t act and dress like teenagers, because it is just noot cool.

        • rehabilitard

          Hey, why the eight season in my post turned into a cool smiley? hahaha

        • margie

          Because you are special like that rehabilitard :)

        • rehabilitard

          Aww, thanks margie,…..I think. Depending on what kind of ‘speshul’ you meant. ;)

        • margie

          not that ‘speshul’ good special lol

        • jukejoint

          Kansas City season 8 had a good cross-section, but lots of nicely dressed teens and 20-somethings along with the usual middle-aged women and little kids. The whole row behind us was teenage girls with high-pitched, never-ending squeals for David Archuleta. Ear-splitting!

          Peoria season 5 had a mostly middle-aged crowd, at least where I was sitting, although I do remember a gaggle of little girls (6 and under) with homemade Kellie Pickler signs. That was the concert where the cranky older ladies behind us asked my friend to sit down when she stood up for Taylor Hicks, but didn’t say a word to me when I stood up for Elliott Yamin. So… Wanted to see Taylor without having to stand? Elliott fans who were being supportive of the only person standing for him? Or just out past their bedtime and cranky in general?

        • Blue Eyes

          Season 5 was the only sold out Idol show in my city. I remember every single seat was taken. Season 7 with David Cook was also close to being sold out. The rest of the seasons were a far cry from being sold out.

          I remember Season 5 there were two weird middle-age men in front of me. They were making faces and weird gestures at Kellie Pickler. I remember they were very annoying. Season 5 was the most entertaining Idol show, IMO.

  • undercooked

    Ross, every idol has to deal with this. I am sure Kelly and Daughtry still have some fans attending their concerts who have been following them from their AI days. That is why it’s crucial for AI alum to get hits on Top 40. It’s the only way they can expand their fanbase.

    • Daf

      I don’t think Kelly and Daughtry’s fanbase even comes CLOSE to this.

      • Burgundy LaRue

        I remember one of Daughtry’s videos (Home, I think) using footage of a concert. The audience was pretty diverse: mixed in with the teenage and 20-something women were lots of guys, some African-Americans, and a few 35+ men. Daughtry has been able to expand his fansbase and can look out at a nice slice of America at his shows. Has to be a good feeling.

      • Blue Eyes

        I was at a Daughtry show recently. He has all age groups, but did not see ANY gray-haired grandmas or grandpas.

  • Mysterioso

    Somewhere, Clay Aiken is snickering and wiping his forehead with a sigh of relief. The only difference is that Clay has a fortress of a mansion to go home to.

  • ross

    So when the Glamberts keep bragging about these sold out shows, this is who goes to them?
    I guess it doesn’t matter as long as you sell out the show. The Boston Herald had a review that said Adam did what Aretha Franklin had failed to do — sell out the Cape Cod Melody Tent – or was it the South Shore Music Circus (where, as a kid, I once saw Mitzi Gaynor)?
    The Herald reviewer went on to say that Adam would be selling out much bigger venues before long. (And I guess Aretha won’t be. Mitzi wasn’t mentioned.) I notice that a lot of reviewers these days are not so much reviewers of music as of ticket sales. I don’t really get Adam sold out a venue and Aretha did not. How can you compare them? Are they the same age and in the same place in their careers? One is a legend. The other is a newcomer.

    I think music should be enjoyed by people of all ages, but I’m just perplexed by this audience. And the other audiences I’ve seen for Adam’s shows. I actually have to read posts by people boasting about his concert stats, and these are the fans they are bragging about selling out the shows? No offense to Adam, his shows are doing great, but is this the audience a young pop star is looking for? Did it ever happen that a pop star went from having a fan base of mostly older females, to conquering the world of pop? Has that ever happened? Will all the yonger, hipper fans come on board when they see how much fun their grandmas are having? I’m serious. I don’t see that happening. I don’t see stadiums filled with seniors and middle-aged moms.

    Adam was the one Simon was always saying was “current.” He was supposed to be cutting edge. I never thought he was, but wasn’t he supposed be?

    • ross

      That’s true, undercooked. They probably do. (Replying to your post above.)

      Still, when Adam’s popularity is reported in the media, the demographic is usually not mentioned. So, seriously, I’ve been pretty surprised at the photos posted here from this show and the casino show out west. I don’t really think the demographic matters at all except in terms of: was this the one you were targeting? And, if not, how did you end up with it? I’m curious about this stuff. How did that happen, anyhow? It’s sort of ironic.

      When you think of the edgy music that is out there, he isn’t edgy. But maybe to the regular folks he’s just edgy enough, plus he has the vocal ability, the big onstage personality, and the theatricality. Not that I’ve seen the show. I’m waiting for the rest of TI’s recap.

    • jukejoint

      He seems to have a sizeable audience over 70, too. You can’t count on that audience continuing to buy concert tickets in 10 or 20 years.

      • ross

        No, but maybe they’ll remember him in their wills. :)

  • blacklisted

    OMG, will no one think of the children?!

    The woman with the hair color not found in nature and the white stripes on her ass must have lost a bet, to go out in public looking that way.

    At least the elderly women with the walkers were working tasteful and age appropriate outfits. The rest of these broads could learn a lesson or two.

  • caspar

    Eh, so far I’m not amused. That looks like every AI tour audience I’ve ever seen (not in person, because I’ve never been). Well, except for the picket-fence lady. I was expecting some crazy *is disappointed*

    I assume things will pick up once TI gets inside the casino.

    • http://topidolblog.com TopIdol

      Just wait until we meet ADeityAmongstMen!

    • rehabilitard

      That white fluffy tiered top and cropped jeans. Oh, my eyes!

      • mtlfan

        loll … not tonguediving target?

      • deez

        Ugggh. Really??? When deciding what to wear out that night, she made a conscious decision to portray herself as a meringue pie?

        • Paulie

          Aww deez! Meringue pies will take offense to that statement. :(

          • deez

            You are right Paulie!!!! (My apologies to the pastry community!)

  • JaneRochester

    This town needs an enema.

    • Burgundy LaRue

      This town also deserves a better class of rock star. Did Adam give it to them? ;-)

      As a fat person, I understand that sometimes it’s easier to throw on whatever fits and go with the flow. But yeesh! These people said F*** EFFORT and went out wearing their raggediest threads. And lots of these folks aren’t fat–they should be able to find fashionable clothes with ease. Clothing is the one commodity in the USA that’s cheap and worth the money. Yeah, most of it is made in China. But with $50 and some thought, you can put together a decent outfit.

      Going out with jeans slashed next to your butt is NOT cool. And if your bra strap is wider than your blouse strap, PUT A FREAKING T-SHIRT UNDERNEATH THE BLOUSE. Better yet, WEAR ANOTHER BLOUSE ALL TOGETHER! If a top reveals any kind of fat roll, DON’T WEAR IT! I say this with love and as a fellow fatty. We’ve got let each other know this stuff.

      If I were Adam, I’d take one look at that crowd and run. When ladies old enough to be your grandma are the only decently dressed women in the group, it’s time to rethink your career plans.

      • http://topidolblog.com TopIdol

        My mom is a bigger woman. She always looks put together. She would never wear anything of this sort. In my entire life, I’ve only seen about 2 of my mother’s actual, real-life fingernails, and I’ve never seen her nail polish chip because she redoes it ASAP.

        Again, it’s not about being larger. It’s about just not caring enough about oneself to be presentable. I usually hate dressing up so I don’t do it very often and luckily, there are so many ways to look presentable in jeans these days, it’s not often an issue. And people can buy decent looking clothes at any price point!

        • ross

          Yeah but this is Hampton Beach. I never saw many sharp dressed people walking around there, except kids. A lot of the people are on vacation and some are probably staying in RV parks and campgrounds. Maybe they didn’t bring a lot of clothes.

  • kimberly

    Lee jeans. That made me grin widely.

    A lot to be said for being unknown and happily doing your thing creatively. I wonder if Adam mourns for those days.

    • JaneRochester

      Was that “Lee jeans,” or “Lee’s jeans”? There’s a world of difference, y’know. ;)

      I’m going to guess Adam isn’t mourning a whole lot. Many people have accused him of “selling out,” but he’s been quite upfront about being willing to embrace the whole cash end of things. As one who didn’t have the balls to starve for my art, I have to give him props for that.

      • http://topidolblog.com TopIdol

        I’m still amazed at the amount of merchandise they sold at the show. I’ve never seen so many different items for one performer. His management is smart. They know how to milk his audience.

        • Pandora

          At what point will that audience run out of money? If they have to buy a bunch of remixes for every single, plus every piece of merchandise, not to mention the weekly purchases of the album… and now the VIP tickets plus the fan-site memberships. Does his management plan a series of concerts at county-run nursing homes in a few years, since these fans are obviously spending their retirement savings now.

        • auntieaimee

          The merch is hideous, too. I never buy merch anyway, because I’d feel like a boob wearing a concert t-shirt. Too old.

      • kimberly

        I’m not saying the fame and fortune doesn’t put a smile on his face. I just think he might long a little bit for those days before Idol.
        One thing I do think is that the tour is getting tedious for him. A recent tweet gave voice to that. His setlist can’t be changed up easily. But, it’s a small price to pay, I suppose.

        Like T.I. mentioned, I wonder, as well, what Adam thinks when he sees his audience. I’ll never forget watching David Cook on the MGM Grand stage looking over the audience when the houselights went up. Let’s just say, he didn’t look all that thrilled. The real uberfans were crowded together standing in front of the stage, most seemed to be in the over thirty age category.

        Looking at those pics, I keep hearing Eminem’s voice singing, “it’s a white trash party …”

        Not only the merchandise. This new Fanclub will definitley be a cash cow. (Pun intended.)

  • http://princessleia04.livejournal.com SarahBeth

    Also I do appreciate you taking one for the team here. ;)

  • http://princessleia04.livejournal.com SarahBeth

    YAY for part one!

    It was great. Your recaps are always fabulous.

    Can’t wait for part 2.

    I still can’t believe that people were lining up at 530 in the morning. Seriously. Don’t they have other things to do during the day but wait in line?

    • Pandora

      My question is, did they have their full glammakeup on at 5:30, or did they bring it with them and make their preparations later in the day? And what about the food? Were there coolers?

  • Kathy

    You are a brave brave woman TI.

  • ross

    In the tard sign photo I spot a guy kissing a guy on the cheek.

  • Trish

    Just drive-by posting, but this is for you, TI, to get you ready for Burning Man:

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=129405082

    Have a great time!!!!

  • margie

    Did I time warp and 1985 fashion come back in style? All is missing is the banana clips.

    • muzikizmi

      Seriously. Is that a section of white picket fence stuck on that one lady’s butt? At least the two elderly ladies don’t look like they just rolled out of bed and stumbled into a concert venue, while looking for the food stamp line. I would really love to read the minds of that one little group of young and thin girls. I wonder if they were having second thoughts?

      • Dyneri1

        the lack of style or taste in these fans boggles the mind – adam is all about the glam right – he didn’t say ham people… glammmmm, hahaha. what is up with that white fence-y thing on that fans butt, and her tweety bird yaller hair – srsly… it’s your business how you spend your money, and how you choose to dress when you go out in public, but dang, have a little, just a little teensy bit of pride and some sense of taste – it ain’t that hard, and don’t cost a lot of money. there’s just something trashy about a lot of these fans, appearance wise, like the 1980′s have revisited and not in a good way. if i were adam, i’d be tore up from the floor up drunk every night i had to look out into this audience, knowing i’m going to be seeing the same folks for a long, long, long time. liquoring up is his only defense.

        • ross

          I think it’s a bondage dress? Not that I would know about such things.

          • ross

            ^that answer was in reference to:

            what is up with that white fence-y thing on that fans butt?

      • margie

        Yes the two little old ladies look nice.

        I noticed that girl with the white fence on her dress and Billy Bob Thornton look-a-like with the martini and dice jacket.

  • rehabilitard

    My Glamnation show had a lot of elderly women with the walkers and in wheelchairs too. One was with two canes and she had bleading ulcers on her both legs.
    Still, the most shocking was to see so many obese people in one place. Most that I have seen in my life. And I don’t mean just fat, they were morbidly obese. My seat was next to the family of four, all extremely overweight. They gave me stare of death everythine I left my seat and had to squeeze past them.

  • et

    On the $1 menu, a 4-piece McNuggets is $1. Buy 2 and you get 8 McNuggets for less than the 6-piece!)

    OK, I had to comment on this. I love my 2 x 4 pc for $2 dealy off the dollar menu. Haha.

    I’m glad you survived your jaunt to Glamnation :)

  • DeeDee

    This gives me a good idea of what to expect as I am going tonight to a SOLD OUT show in Staten Island! I have my best pair of sweatpants all pressed and ready to go.

  • alicat10025

    For a minute I thought the woman in the red shirt and white pants was my uncle’s second wife until I saw the cane…though maybe they are related. (I don’t call her my aunt since my uncle married her when I myself was already married after my aunt, his first wife, had passed.)

  • Daf

    LOL, great part one, TI! Aren’t there ALWAYS rocker chicks with walkers at rawk god shows? I’ve been saying this for months and months, when he looks out onto his audience and sees all the grey hair, walking aids, chub and pleather, that in itself is the sweetest victory of all. Rock god indeed!