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Kiss108 Videos: Kris Allen & Adam Lambert

2010 May 23
by TopIdol

Last night, I took one for the team and went to the Kiss108 show. And I promise you will get your recap, I just have a very busy day ahead of me.

MJ has posted videos of both Adam Lambert’s set and Kris Allen’s headlining performance. Here are a sneak peek of both:

Kris Allen doing my favorite Kris Allen song, Can’t Stay Away…

Adam Lambert doing my favorite Adam Lambert song, If I Had You…

I enjoyed both sets, but they were the only ones I paid attention to. Seriously. Would I have gone to that shitfest if I didn’t have this blog? I missed Ke$ha (THANK YOU FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER) and sadly, surprise guest act Bell Biv Devoe, whom, upon coming out on stage said:

This one is for all the moms out there.

Am I really that old? You gotta be kidding me. Don’t lump me in with the moms, dammit! And I’ve always wanted to see Bell Biv Devoe, so it sucks I missed them. Alas.

But this was a Kiss108 show and there were lots of untrustworthy big butts and smiles. I wanted Jamie Oliver to show up magically and tell all these people they were going to die if they didn’t stop shoving Tostinos Party Pizzas down their throats.

I’ve enjoyed Adam Lambert’s performances more since he was on Idol, but I just wish he would do something different. I can’t explain it, but I just want the guy to thrown caution to the wind and perform with reckless abandon. Cursing and thrusting and Vanilla Ice hair is not being a fearless performer. Codpieces do not mean one is different. It just often feels contrived, as if he’s playing the part, and I just wonder if he’s capable of getting up on stage and being himself, whomever that may be. Because I really, really, really want to like him. I really want to like his band, even though I swear they were selected because they looked a certain way more than anything else. I love If I Had You and the crowd’s reaction to his new single was amazing. Little girls in front of me were jumping up and down and dancing. I just feel like his live performance often sound too much like the album. No differentiation for when he say, goes after one of his famous big notes. Can he just stop giving a fuck what his “image” is and just go with what he feels? Because that’s the Adam Lambert who could be a huge star. He did say fuck and that getting dumped pisses you off (something to that affect) which probably didn’t go over too well with the parents in the crowd, but I could give a rat’s ass — my only complaint with this sort of thing again goes back to him projecting this deliberate image of “edginess.” After seeing several 12-year-old girls in their Ke$ha-inspired finest, does it really matter if they hear a few words they’re likely already using behind your back? Frankly, children are likely better off hearing the F-word thrown around a bit than being allowed to dress like Ke$ha.

Kris Allen seems to get better the more he performs in front of large audiences. He also opened with my favorite of his songs, Can’t Stay Away. (Why oh why wasn’t that the second single?) And his band, his band is great. You can’t help but get excited watching a group of guys who are just thrilled to be up on stage playing with one another because its so obvious they’re having a great time. I always thought Allen won Idol because the guy kept improving week after week, and even now, he’s still getting better. He and the band jammed a little bit in a couple of songs and the Heartless / Gangsta’s Paradise mashup was outstanding. Is It Over seems to be a fan favorite, but I’m not sure if that’s one of my favorites, yet It’s Alright is one I liked better after hearing it live at the Rock My Town show in February. I don’t really watch performance videos even when I post them on here, so it was great finally seeing the Heartless/Gangsta’s Paradise mashup live. He also engaged with the crowd throughout his entire set, much more so than the usual what’s up Boston banter employed by most artists (hell, I probably wouldn’t know what city I was in half the time on tour, either). There was a palpable energy to his entire 6-song set, and he’s really learned how to feed off the audience in the past year. Many performers are more concerned about themselves when on a stage, but the ones who perform for their audience often end up having pretty solid careers.

The crowd was largely tweentards, many of whom this concert is a yearly tradition. The lame-ass t-shirts sold out by 2:30, leaving many attendees angry because just as the concert is a yearly tradition, so are the t-shirts. Retailing for $35, I was told that people will often by a huge lot of them and then sell them in the parking lots (or online) after the show for $50. I had no idea these t-shirts were in such demand. Do I think the Lambert and Allen may have gained some tweentard fans? Most definitely. Unless tweentards yell like that for everyone and everything. I have no clue. I had no idea people loved those damn t-shirts too much, or the fact kids now cannot even type OK while texting. They do KK b/c, as was explained to me by a mother I met, they’re too lazy to type the O when replying.

I’m still attempting to deal with this new knowledge.

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  • deez

    We need a Kris Post or a random topic thread so I don’t get in trouble!!!!

    From Mj’s, Kris in NJ this morning:

    http://www.mediafire.com/?xyq3jznexj4 epic solo from Andrew on Is it Over. LOL at the guy saying That is a GREAT song about Alright With Me (yeah…if only….)

    Come Together (in the crowd….he’s brave)

    • http://topidolblog.com TopIdol

      Ok. I will make a post.

      • deez

        Thank you * hangs head in embarrassment* must release the tard so that it doesn’t build up.
        (look away, Smartie)

    • leastofall

      Yay! New Post!! Thanks for bringing the video over here, Deez. About that hilarious Daniel (with hair) & Kris pic, It’s part of a special slide show on MTV website for ‘When I was 17′.

  • J

    Adam must be getting some negative feedback on his dancers or band. Here are his latest tweets.

    “U come after my glamily, I come after YOU!! :) peace 16 minutes ago via Echofon

    All r onstage b/c they bring a special, unique energy to the show, the songs, and help me be my best. If I want them there so should u! :) 17 minutes ago via Echofon

    If anyone has negative thoughts bout my crew-just don’t bother coming to the show. Your loss. :) the Glam Nation Tour is all bout LOVE 28 minutes ago via Echofon

    Excited for rehearsal. It’s all comin together. My band and dancers are my family! We’re putting together an amazing show.Get into it! No H8″

    He is a new artist trying to build a career. Telling people that they shouldn’t bother coming to his show isn’t a smart move. Those tweets come across as a diva hissy fit.

    • Pandora

      Ugh, he used the word “glamily” and now I have to go throw up.

      And for those who want his performances to be about the music and the voice, well, tough shit as that’s obviously not what he’s selling.

      • Blue Eyes

        Did he really use the word “glamily”? Just shoot me now.

        I kind of like that he told off some over-invested crazies. They are probably the same crazies that voted for him and now they think they can control his every move.

        • auntieaimee

          I kind of like that he smacked them down, too. I don’t know if his dancers are old friends of his or what, but it would be like fans tweeting Kris to get rid of one of his bandmates. Twitter really is the devil sometimes. I can only imagine the crazy stuff that gets tweeted Adam’s way.*shudder*

        • ross

          He shouldn’t answer stuff like that. Just ignore. I think when he does he comes across as touchy.

      • Sandy

        Glamily…..just sounds so….cheesy, and not edgy. If he’s got to bring the dancers along I hope he can improve the choreography. Some of it seemed so lame.

    • J

      If people were tweeting OTT nasty stuff I can understand his comments. But I still think that telling people that they shouldn’t come to his show if they have negative thoughts about his crew was not a smart move. Would you tell a friend that if they didn’t love everyone in your family or social circle they shouldn’t bother spending time with you? It just sounds so middle school to me.

    • sj

      Hmmm. I don’t like being told what I should want.

    • Lauren

      I like how he puts a smiley face after everything. He is stealing my methods!

      • Lauren

        xD

      • deez

        Well, in his defense, he may think “Glamily” is clever. After all, I doubt that he spends hours at fansites looking at all the glam-vocabulary. It’s probably hasn’t become a stale joke just yet. It’s a good sign that he’s not paying so much attention to them.

        • deez

          “It probably” not “it’s probably”

        • On The Edge

          Too bad he doesn’t realize that a lot of his BSC fans consider themselves part of the “Glamily” and will interpret his tweet as defending them from us evil homephobe hatrs.

          • Mithra

            Exactly. He’s such a tard in more ways than one. Every time he insults his fans and acts like a douchebag, he’s driving more of the sane ones away and is only going to be left with the BSC. It’s one thing to tell off the stalkers like Hollygofuckyourself who sat down at his TABLE while he was attending a friend’s show, then posted everything he did and who he talked to on IDF – but now fans can’t say they don’t like his cheesy dancers? He’s being a QueenFrauTard himself there.

        • Sandy

          If people are complaing about his dancers instead of telling them not to come to his show he should go watch some videos of his performances and see what he could do to improve the choreography. Use it as constructive criticism to make his show better.

  • Mary

    I scrolled down these comments and what do I see??? Spoilers for the LOST finale which I haven’t watched yet. I HATE YOU GUYS!!

    • Lauren

      My friend’s boyfriend ruined it for me. I am in the process of convincing her to dump him. LOST spoilers are a big deal!!!!

    • Nich

      I hate to say this but for something huge like a season finale or series finale I don’t bother getting online until I’ve seen it. Because you really never know where you’re going to get spoiled at.

      • Lauren

        I can’t live without checking my facebook, though. :(

    • Mary

      I’m only on episode 6 of this season, so I have a long way to go. And like Lauren, I have to constantly check my FB throughout the day :(

  • deez
    • Mary

      LOOOOLLL your review genuinly made me laugh :)
      and it was VERY helpful

      • deez

        I think she needs a few more!! :)

        • MissMyEm

          Done. I just posted. I don’t know how long it takes.

    • et

      Raises a claw in support of Deez’s masterful review of The Book with the Longest Title in the History of Bookdom.

    • suew

      omg – the shits going to hit the fan when she sees those 2 reviews.

      • et

        That should get the ol’ exorcist head spinning.

        Maybe it will finally get her to debate TI! I have been *WAITING*, Krazy Kerry!!!

      • deez

        A debate would be my Christmas and Birthday all wrapped up into a lovely little ball and tied with a ribbon of pure awesomeness!

      • deez

        Now we have THREE!!!!!!!!

    • Sandy

      LOVE the reviews! I’d like to leave one myself but it said I have to buy something first when I registered. I don’t want to do that. This is Volume 1? What could Volume 2 possibly be about? The unfair amount of promotion Adam received in comparison to Crist? Because as the unrightful winner he didn’t deserve any?

      • justpeachy

        deez, your review is a wondrous sight to behold! I’m still working on coaxing my repressed Miss Snarkles out of her shell, so for the time being, I will allow others to be my voice.

        By this time tomorrow, I hope we’ll be witness to something amazing.

    • Kate123

      Did she ACTUALLY rename it “Adam Lambert Should Have Won!” ???????? Mehh…AI fans do seem to love their fanfiction.

      • jukejoint

        Adam Lambert, Second to None
        Adam Lambert, Should Have Won
        Adam Lambert, Glittery One
        Adam Lambert, Weighs a Ton
        Adam Lambert, Career Is Done
        Adam Lambert, Sticky Buns
        Adam Lambert, Son of a Gun
        Adam Lambert, Not Much Fun
        Adam Lambert, Give It Up, Hon

        She apparently likes titles that rhyme. I think I remember from my Law & Psychiatry class that rhyming is a symptom of schizophrenia.

        • Mithra

          BWAHAHAHA!

          Adam Lambert, Kerry’s Coming, You Better Run…

    • LittleMissCynic

      Nice job guys! I’d write a review myself, but it’s been a long day and all of my sarcasm seems to have disappeared. Maybe I’ll get around to doing it tomorrow.

      And also, apparently I’ve been really out of the loop. I had no idea she changed the title. It’s so long. And ridiculous. And why is only half of it capitalized? Maybe someday I’ll write a book entitled “Adam Lambert’s Batshit Fans: How the Results of a Televised Singing Competition Drove Overly-Invested Fans Past the Point of Insanity and what America can do to clean up all the glitter. (Volume One)”

      Oh snap! I think my sarcasm is back! I should get on with that review.

      • Sandy

        Now that’s a book I might actually buy!

  • jukejoint

    OT: I am watching Jon Hamm on “Ellen” right now. :-)

    He says they are currently filming season 4 of Mad Men and I want to KNOW WHAT HAPPENS.

    I’m a spoiler ho.

    • Miz

      He has his own apartment. Does that help?

    • http://topidolblog.com TopIdol

      Don’t you think I had the DVR set? :)

      About to watch in a bit!

  • Mithra

    OMG – go to google and type in kerry ko …and the drop down’s first suggestion is our very own Krazy Kerry!!!eleventy!!! She’s like a celebrity now :D

    • deez

      It was inevitable, people love a trainwreck.

    • jukejoint

      Ooooh, does that mean she’s a public figure so we have to have malice and all before anything we say is defamatory, you know, like she’s been doing with Kras Alumni?

    • suew

      I work with a bunch of lawyers, and believe me, not a one of them has ANY time to write a book about a reality tv show. Does she not have a job?

      • Pandora

        Basically, no she doesn’t. Her law license is suspended.

  • boadicea

    Topidol has just cemented its reputation as the go-to place for KA overkill. Guy’s just OK – live with it.

    • naiya

      Welcome!

    • deez

      Scuttle back on over to PF, AO, or one of the many, many other sites that are all Adam all the time if you cannot stand the thought of Kris Allen having a few fans.

    • et

      Shoo, troll. Shoo!

      • Destry

        LOL! That goes really well with your gravatar

        • et

          Haha, it does, doesn’t it? Raised claws are effective for sending across a SHOO message!

          • Burgundy LaRue

            Allow me to help you. Raised claws FTW!

          • et

            Man, Burgundy LaRue, you have a much more forbidding monster face, I must say. Mine looks a bit startled but yours is like… bitch please!

          • et

            Plus it *totally* looks like your brains are on top of your head, which is for sure going to scare a troll. Claws rock, though. I will raise my claws again in a show of monsterhood!

          • jukejoint

            Burgundy has BIG brains!!

            et has a halo. I have a blowhole. I ask you, who got screwed here?

          • Burgundy LaRue

            But you’ve got sharp teeth, jukejoint. That’s a menacing mouth you’ve got. Plus, you’re walking like an Egyptian. I’m jealous.

            And et’s halo doubles as a TV antenna. The third eye is a built-in TV screen. Lucky monster with its own satellite service!

            I got hosed with having a spring for legs. You kick my spring and I’m on the ground, claws waving helplessly in the air. Plus, I’m cross-eyed. I’m not as in good shape as you think. Sads. :-(

          • muzikizmi

            Hey, at least you have something underneath. I have a shadow. I hover….. but that may be too much information. I do have a cute hour glass figure though, in spite of having no legs.

          • rockpaperscissors

            Hahaha, I look very mean and angry and a wee bit blue *sigh*
            But I do look very coordinated with the arm thingy though.

          • deez

            Burgundy and et both have a Dr Zoidberg thing going on. (Is my Kitteh gone yet?)I’m back to horny blue, arrowheaded chickenfoot, begloved, fell asleep on a pink blanket with a shit-eating grin monster.

          • naiya

            Maybe I can help with the SHOOing. I have scary green snakes coming out everywhere AND a scary pie hole. If I had to have 3 eyes, though, I would have preferred 1 on each lobe. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have to go sit down before I topple over.

          • et

            I want to walk like an Egyptian like rockpaperscissors. And somehow naiya’s three eyes are cooler than mine. Though I do rather like the notion of my own tee-vee right in my forehead. I mean, that’s just awesome. But deez, are your chicken feet a super secret Kristard sign? Like chick-en-feet = chik-fil-a? C’mon, confess.

            I think we did with our collective monster-ness shoo the troll, though. Which means collectively, we rock.

            Isn’t it typical for a monster, though, to want what the other monster has? I have a satellite antenna, but yet I envy naiya her Medusa hair and I covet Burgundy’s brain. I’m a *little* unsure about your mouth, though, rockpaperscissors. I’m not… quite… sure… what’s going on there. But *Walk Like an Egytian* arms. Le sigh!

          • Sandy

            Aww. I don’t look scary at all. I just look like I’m raising my hand in class and sayinging “Teacher, Teacher! Pick me!”

          • et

            But Sandy you have a *horn*!

          • ross

            Horns are in this season.

          • Sandy

            Yup! Me n’ Ross! We are cute, horny little monsters!!!!!

          • cc

            Oh yeah, horns FTW! (But I still want a hand tho…)

          • Sandy

            Horny monsters unite!!!!

          • et

            Sandy, I think ross is enamored with you… look at his googly eyes! He’s starstruck!

          • ross

            Your eye is beautiful. Let me take you away from all this. We could make beautiful music together, my little green tomato.

    • summersnow

      Wow thanks for saying that Kris is an “OK” guy – that’s really a compliment considering that it’s from a glambert. At least Kris’s fans never hail him as the second coming of Queen/Elvis Presley/Michael jackson/*fill in whatever legendary rock band names you can think of*, so in many ways we are living with that he has already exceeded most of our expectations so far.

      • Miz

        Queen Elvis? Was that a Freudian slip? If so, I like it.

    • peg

      Yeah, I suspect you’re familiar with the concept of “overkill”. Kris Allen fans don’t seem to have a problem living with the amount of success he’s had since WINNING American Idol at all. It looks like some fans of another contestant sure have trouble dealing with it!

    • rockpaperscissors

      I followed the trail of glitter back to their bat cave (PF) and it seems we have annoyed the Queen Bee. Be on the alert! A strike is imminent!
      Word on the street at PF is that Cress Lying is performing on the AI finale – this has angered the citizens of PF to the point that they have organized their troops and are armed and ready to strike. There has been word that some preemptive strikes have already occurred but they are just warming up. AGAIN, be on the lookout -be ready.
      Secure all your belongings and hide the woman folk and kidlets – REPEAT, this is not a drill – be ready- arm yourself – and for God Sake stay safe.
      May the force be with you All.

      • et

        I KNEW when I went outside I heard a faint buzzing noise and saw a few faint traces of glitter floating down from a big black spot in the sky. I knew it! The Glampocalypse is upon us!

        • Destry

          I shall be the drummer girl on the sidelines, singing at the top of my lungs, “Can’t we all just pretend that airplanes in the night sky are shooting stars!!?”

          • et

            Haha, Destry, that will be awesome. Maybe we can sell the Galpocalypse soundtrack to any survivors?

          • ross

            It truly will be a Time For Miracles.

          • et

            Holy crap, nice typo – and me the proofreading didn’t even catch it. Galpocalypse? NO. GLAMpocalypse!

          • et

            ProofreadER. Oh-em-gee, maybe I should stop proofreading tonight, wonder if the lecture I’m doing has the same awesome spelling as my posts here?!

    • maturin

      Horns are in this season.

      I thought that was bagpipes.

      Still can’t get my whatever to stand up straight….

      • et

        maturin, I think I love your lettuced-handed bandit :)

        • rockpaperscissors

          et, I’m pretty sure you have a martini on your head. That must come in handy when you are reading about Idol LOL

          • jukejoint

            Nooooo, that’s et’s haloooooooooooo. Don’t take away the halo and make it a martini. I love the halooooooooo.

            et, at least you have two eyes. Just sayin’.

          • et

            A martini halo? I could dig a martini halo.

            Oh, jukejoint, you have two eyes… you are just winky winky. And you walk like an Egyptian. I seem to be obsessed with that. Is that a sea anenome on your head? Yeah, I’m checking you out with my three eyes…

      • ross

        Still can’t get my whatever to stand up straight…

        Have you seen your doctor?

      • jukejoint

        Maturin, I covet your bandit mask and lettuce hands, but the smile is a little creepy. Or is that a pot belly?

      • erinnthered

        Y’all ain’t got nothin’ on mah Ruprect. He’s a STAH I tell you. ;)

        I do kinda love Burgundy’s big brain, and deez just isn’t the same without the chicken feet.

    • ophelia64

      Seriously, I’ve been sitting here laughing my ass off at the “monster” discussion. Cracking me up. Don’t post enough to remember what mine looks like. Guess I’ll find out.

      • ophelia64

        Yikes. I’m attached to the ground by a stem, BY A STEM! My arms are pointy blade-like things, and I have a blowhole for God’s sake. I don’t have a horn, brains on the top of my head, a satellite TV with a built in antenna, walk like an Egyptian arms or any extra eyes. Sometimes life just isn’t fair. *sigh*

        • nerdgirl

          I think we are related, since I have similar blades instead of arms. However, I have way too many legs and some sort of trunk, so maybe its anorexic elephant. Anyway, hopefully, I can kick well…in case of Glamocalypse

          • et

            nerdgirl, do you have *rabbit* ears? Coooollll…

          • On The Edge

            Hmm…I post so infrequently I can’t remember WHAT I look like.

          • On The Edge

            Okay, what the FUCK? Is one of my noodly arms longer than the other? I’m just a lavender…BLOB. A lavender blob with a bad perm and wonky noodle arms. Ooh, but my lashes are purdy.

        • et

          But you are cool like Edward Scissorhands. ‘Cause you have *blades* for your arms. Plus your eyes are looking in different directions. This is cool. Granted the brains on top of the head and walking like an Egyptian are the monster features that give me envy… but I guess a monster can’t always have it all.

          • nerdgirl

            Ahh, rabbit ears, I was not sure what it was, kind of look like internal organs, rather that external, being pinkish and all… So, I have extremely sensitive hearing – that explains a lot! And I can cut a b**** with them blades! I am ready!

          • et

            And after you cut them you can suck up the parts with your vacuum cleaner hose nose… so you are *environmental* – woohoo!

            (Oh, boy, I need sleep – does anyone else remember some stupid kids song about “vacuum cleaner hoses coming out of their noses and nothing where their… something… should be”?)

          • jukejoint

            Nerdgirl, you also have four legs. You should share with some of the people with none, who are forced to hover over a shadow or have (gulp) a stem.

          • nerdgirl

            I would love to share my legs, they look nice and skinny.

        • Sandy

          Some of you have been blessed with an extra eyeball whereas I only have one. :pouts: Life is so unfair!

          • erinnthered

            Excuse me. One eyeball is way cooler than two. We’re ELITE, dammit!

  • blacklisted

    I never knew what Pat Monihan looked liked prior to the recent video, therefore I must tweak my original joke about him being an old man. The long legs, fine ass and suburban dad gone to seed look REALLY works for me. Ay papi, I’ve been a bad, bad girl.

    • leastofall

      First Cale, now Pat – Bad bad girl indeed ;) !!

    • Destry

      He IS a fine specimen of a man to be sure. Makes me forgive him for intruding upon Kris’ already perfect song. Cuz, you know, the handsome are always forgiven.

      • deez

        Lol…ever see the sexual harrassment training on SNL featuring Tom Brady?

        • Destry

          No, but I’ll have to check it out now. Brady’s a stud. Is he forgiven cuz he’s handsome?

        • Destry

          OMG DEEZ! That was hilarious.

          -Be handsome
          -Be attractive
          -Don’t be unattractive

          • http://topidolblog.com TopIdol

            I hate Tom Brady, however…

            Sexual Harassment & You is the greatest thing he’s ever done. It’s also one of my all-time favorite SNL Digital Shorts. It’s completely underrated, but its brilliant.

            And so fraking true.

  • deez
    • Dickory Dock

      Is that for real? Ho-lee shit. Review it and you shall have my eternal and undying devotion.

    • Nich

      The best part? It’s a VOLUME I! There’s more!

      • justpeachy

        I’m asking this for a “friend”, how long does it take for a review to show up on Amazon?

        • deez

          Uh-huh…lol. Actually, I registered a new acct so I could leave a review, but it says I have to make a purchase and wait 48 hours! (boooooooo, Amazon, booooooo!)My reg acct is under my real name, which I don’t want Scammy Skerry knowing for obvious reasons!

          • et

            My reg acct is under my real name, which I don’t want Scammy Skerry knowing for obvious reasons!

            I’m in the same boat, oh well ;) . I had a real good review planned, too, lol.

          • summersnow

            Boo! I want to leave a review as well but I never purchase stuff from Amazon. I dun even live in US.

      • deez

        It’s $19.97? I’m glad I got the heavily discounted version :) .

    • et

      Oh, review it. You must review it!

      • rockpaperscissors

        Review It! Review It!

        LMAO.

        Wow, she must be legit if Amazon is now selling it *big ol eye roll*

        • deez

          Hmmmmmm…..I could always change my username :) .

          Should I go serious review, pretend to be a Glambert and kiss her ass,or just tell her to go to hell?

          • justpeachy

            After my “friend” typed up his review, he was directed to the username page, with a pen name option, which is what he chose. No personal info divulged, he hopes.

          • justpeachy

            Oh, yeah, it still says it can take up to 48 hours to post.

            Deez, I’ve always considered satire to be a beautiful thing. Whoever pointed out those Howling Wolf T-shirt reviews on here has my undying admiration.

            (I lurked a very loooooooong time before joining.)

          • deez

            LOL :) I just adopted a pen name as well…it’s …DEEZ!

            It’s currently “processing”, but here it is:

            The literary world has until now, been a deep abyss of nothingness. Thank goodness that the brilliant self-described crusader, Kerry Kolsch, has finally filled that void with this very “special” tale of injustice. Of all the evil things and downright “wrongness” in the world today, I can think of nothing that deserves moral outrage and righteous indignation more than Kris Allen’s AMERICAN IDOL victory! This book is a real treat. Her spelling and grammar alone are a real tribute to our current educational system, and her “turn of phrase” is unrivaled! Kerry’s acute investigative skills are also on full display! Your hand will surely be clasped over your gaping mouth as you revel in her findings from such irrefutable sources as “Google”, “Rickey’s”, “Adam Official”, and many, many other blog posts!!!111!!!! If you value TRUTH, JUSTICE, and the AMERICAN WAY,(as I know you do), and the “real, true facts of reality”…as GOD IS YOUR WITNESS, *raises a fist to the heavens* please, PLEASE do not hestitate to not buy this INCREDIBLE, UNBELIEVABLE tome from a real “piece of work”. ;)

            ELEVENTY!!!!!1111111!!!!

          • Dickory Dock

            Deez, that review is a thing of god damned beauty. *wipes tear*

          • Dickory Dock

            Dude. DUDE! Your review is up. But I think it’s under your real name. Go! Check! Be spritely about it!!

          • blacklisted

            OMG deez, you’re killing it! lmao

          • deez

            DAMMITT!!!!! I had to delete. When I click on the review it shows up as “real name”, but when I go to edit, it’s the pen name! WTF?????? I’ll go write a random review of something to see if it works yet, lol.

          • naiya

            Nice review! I especially liked the end.

          • cc

            OMG deez, That. Is. Brilliant!!! *bows down*

        • deez

          OK, my test was successful. I just had a re-do. We will see.

          • et

            Deez, that is beautiful. And made me laugh my ass off. Yay!

          • Mithra

            It’s not showing up at all for me.

          • leastofall

            :) Brilliant, Deez!

        • et

          I can’t believe how long the stupid title is. Well, that and the fact that someone is unhinged enough to care that much about something that happened on a TV show a year ago.

          • jukejoint

            Just keep repeating Ross’s words of wisdom to yourself:

            Next week someone else will be the American Idol. And it still won’t be Adam. Ha.

            Maybe Miss KK can write a new volume on all the cheating that went on to deny Adam the title again this year. Come on! He performed better than Krustle or Lem and google trends and Rickey.org and everybody else knows it!!!! She has pictures!!!!!! Race track and illegal gambling!!!!! Bad teeth and a dad with a ponytail!!!! You really expect us to believe that America would vote for those people over the Rawk Gawd???????

        • Miz

          Heh, my ex husband sold crap on Amazon too. Anyone can do it. New, used, your own mindless ramblings.

          • et

            Aw, you can still buy my brother’s CD on Amazon. I had to search for it when we started talking about Amazon, lol. He was an indie artist so yeah, if you make it… you can sell it ;)

    • Pandora

      Forgive this indulgence, but I’m imagining a dream sequence…
      Chick-Fil-A, or AT&T, or Daniel Allen, or someone else she names in the book files a libel suit against her. Through the discovery process, Idol and 19 acknowledge that everything that occurred in Arkansas was legal. Then Idol reluctantly reveals the vote totals from the S8 finale… in which there were 30 million+ votes from AR, which they threw out due to the power-voting clause, and Kris still won by 10 million votes.

      • Legend

        Pandora! I have this dream too!! But what about people who EAT at Chick Fil A? Do our votes count?

        • Pandora

          As long as we don’t live in Arkansas, yes. ;)

    • Trish

      Vol. 1?? Oh, Lord, what’s next?

    • Kathy

      Its on Amazon? oh my. Yes Adam cursing is not nearly as disturbing as finding out mothers let their daughters dress like Kesha. That reminds me of the whole Bratz doll craze. I never got who thought those were good things to hand a little girl.

    • Pandora

      Damnit, she changed publishers! No more Underpants Press, it’s something called CreateSpace which was founded in 1951… I wonder when KK was born?

      • deez

        1969, according to unnamed sources.

        • jukejoint

          Zabasearch has her listed as born April, 1969. So what the heck happened February 8, 1951? It’s where her publication date should be.

          • Mithra

            Wasn’t there something about her and her mother in some legal scam, and if it was indeed her mother as legal partner, or Kerry having her mother as a sockpuppet…? I keep thinking Norman Bates for some reason :P

      • justpeachy

        By coincidence, I just happened to go to createspace.com and found out that it’s a self-publishing site.

        • deez

          Someone’s “friend” should include that in his review, lol. (FYI…nothing showing up yet. grrr)

          • justpeachy

            Yeah, I don’t know what happened to my “friend’s” review. Yours showed up for that little while, but his isn’t even on his “reviews written” page.

          • deez

            Did you use a pen name? My first one showed up under the real name, perhaps that’s why it posted so quickly. Maybe if you use a pen name the comment goes through approval. Hopefully, that will mean I won’t have to delete it again!

    • jukejoint

      What happened to ADAM LAMBERT SECOND TO NONE and the horrific Tom Cruisesque cover art? Did Adam’s lawyers tell her it was not so nifty to try to sell her “book” off his fame and image and to cease and desist? Inquiring minds want to know!

      I love that she put her JD on the cover, too. Who in the hell does that kind of shit? Some lawyers go all “Esquire” after their names, but most over the age of 26 (meaning more than a year out of law school) know how silly it looks, even on business cards, let alone the cover of a “book.”

      • deez

        I’m wondering about Vol 2. Will the 100 pages she mysteriously left out show up in the sequel?

        • jukejoint

          I figured those hundred pages were the ones where she lifted other people’s work product (like photos) without permission, or the hundred pages over which her lawler convinced her she was most susceptible to being sued.

          Or maybe she is just testing the water and trying to sell enough copies of volume 1 to float the printing costs for volume 2.

          Another weird thing — the 1951 thing is where the publication date usually goes on Amazon listings. They don’t care how long a publisher has been around. But somebody screwed up when they created that listing, because I don’t think anybody thinks her book was published Feb 8, 1951. That may be Miss Kerry’s birthdate (or at least year), however, if she had to fill out info on the author but screwed up and put it under publication date on the form. Because it’s a stretch to think you would make a typo and put 1951 instead of 2010. Is Kerry’s birthdate Feb 8, 1951?

          • deez

            Her Mom is supposedly only 62, so IDK. (or maybe that’s how old she was when she got put in the chair in the basement *cue shower curtain music*)

      • Mithra

        Yeah, where’s the tard art cover? Adam’s lawlers couldn’t have said anything since it was clearly a picture of Tom Cruise, but still…is someone slightly sane trying to advise Kerry, and why? Or did the scientologists show up at her doorstep…?

        * An analysis of American Idol / FremantleMedia contracts.

        Aside from the obvious point and laugh at the rest of this, I would be interested in seeing if she’s come up with anything legit and new. In her twitter rants she did uncover something interesting but merely hinted at it (tard related), so it’s not like she incapable of digging shite up. It’s just what she does with it. It’s like she actually finds something juicy, mentions it in passing, but then focuses on pure crap to fuel her grandiose delusions. It’s like she cannot make her brain leave her twisted structure. Such an interesting case study.

      • summersnow

        I think KK is cunning not to retain the original title and the book art cover because it’s so obvious that it is written by a tard and will make it less credible. I suspect she is trying to deceive unknowing people into buying the book with an unassuming title and cover that will make the book look like one written by a critic/expert of AI.

    • Pandora

      From the description on Amazon: American Idol has become a voting contest not a singing contest.
      This is news to who?

      • deez

        Nobody. Not even Skerry. She insists on being a broken record.

  • ross

    Just read the Boston Globe review. The critic, Marc Hirsch, called Adam the concert’s “indisputable” primary draw, as he “elicited the loudest screams throughout the day.”

    “But if last year’s American Idol runner-up really were the once-in-a-generation game changer that Matty indroduced him as being, he certainly wasn’t put on earth to sing Whataya Want from Me. He was at his best, though still undeserving of the hyperbole, on Sleepwalker, which was dramatic but restrained, rather than everything screaming all the time.”

    “Reigning American Idol Kris Allen closed in fine, confident voice on almost uniformly terrible material. Alright With Me, and the platitude-laden Live Like We’re Dying were both mindlessly chipper roots-pop, and the full band version of Kanye West’s Heartless suggested that Allen really didn’t understand why his celebrated solo-acoustic version worked in the first place. But he nailed a cover of Come Together, as well as Is It Over, a twisty, bluesy gem in the vein of John Mayer or Ryan Adams.”

    (I think he said the same thing about Heartless in his Idols tour concert review.)

    • deez

      the full band version of Kanye West’s Heartless suggested that Allen really didn’t understand why his celebrated solo-acoustic version worked in the first place.

      I would be willing to bet that he DOES understand why it worked. I think that Kris looks at the Heartless mashup as a totally different animal than his acoustic cover. Perhaps the reviewer doesn’t get that.

      • ross

        The more I think of it I’m sure he said almost exact thing about the Idols concert version. Kind of lazy. I wish reviewers would talk with artists more about this stuff.

    • ross

      By the way, when Kris announced the names of a few acts, I didn’t think Adam got louder screams than the people he named after Adam. But maybe the screaming Adam fans had gone home by then?

  • deez

    Breaking news: This just in, Tess is not a fan. I repeat, NOT A FAN.

    Tess:
    05/24/2010 at 9:01 am
    The mark of a good singer is the ability to bring it night after night. Someone who makes their living from their voice needs to be able to dig deep…look at broadway musicals, or Las Vegas shows (Celine Dion), or never ending concert tours (ala Cookie). Great singers can sing every night (at full voice) and twice on Wednesday for the matinee.

    If it is true that Kris’ voice isn’t “professionally trained” (from what I can gather…please correct me) and working with a vocal coach would help him establish the endurance that he needs to sing well and often. Hopefully his vocal problems (and yup TT was very bad the first stanza) won’t hinder him from doing well on his upcoming summer gigs. If he is having issues now it is probably a good thing that he isn’t doing a full 12 song set at every gig.

    So much hand-wringing concern.

    • ross

      You know what she can do.

      • deez

        I came pretty close to telling Judeeeeeeeeeee to GTFO out of a Kris thread. She comes there to say something along the lines of “LMAO at TT, it was awful”. Oh well, at least it wasn’t masked in concern. (IDK why I resist getting banned. I rarely post there anymore.)

        • ross

          Funny, I saw a lot of tweets about The Truth in San Antonio, last night. They were all very positive.

        • muzikizmi

          I read that MJs hits are down 45% this season, and she can’t figure out why. Maybe it is all of those Glambert trolls she coddles and/or the Kris Allen fans she banned. I doubt that TI’s hits are down 45%, but maybe she will speak to this.

          • et

            I know that little herd of Glamberts has probably cut down how much I spend there by half. I am trying to get better at just fleeing when they start their spouting instead of getting upset about it… and see, I come over here in a better mood! Yay!

          • http://topidolblog.com TopIdol

            MJs traffic has been fine! Where have you read this? How would anyone even have the actual correct information?

            On average, my traffic has doubled this season. But I’ve only been around a couple of years. Now what do I have to do to keep you guys reading until next season (yikes) and jesus, in Fall 2011 for The X Factor?

    • MissMyEm

      Yes, the Glambots are out in force already and will be out even more. I feel so bad for them and all their concern. Tsk. Tsk. Sigh. Sigh.

    • naiya

      I love the judging of vocals off of a less than stellar quality video from an outdoor concert. It looked like everyone was having a good time.

    • et

      Tess is an old bitter hag, ugh! She is another of my NOT-favorites. I know she’s older b/c she’s postesd that she is… she’s just nasty. Wasn’t she an Archie fan, too?

      Judeeeeeeee is just an eejit.

      I popped over there last night into one of the threads and alaadam and tiger92 and marywhatever were all whining about how mean TI is and I just laughed and turned off my computer and went to bed. Heh.

      • Legend

        “Tess:
        05/24/2010 at 11:10 am
        Just to be fair, it wasn’t I who was clamoring for Kris to rest his voice for a few days before idol, I believe this was mentioned by some of his fans.

        True, I don’t think Kris has the vocal fortitude that many well-trained Singers have. No snark on his voice or its quality, just on his ability to keep it purring like a well tuned instrument. And sure all Singers have their off days…I’m just saying that to have a good career it is imperative that a “voice” is in tip top shape. A great performer sings with a bad throat, or a cold, or the flu, or (heaven forbid) a raging hangover or jet lag. The audience doesn’t give a rat’s ass about how they are feeling…they want every performance to be top notch. It is up to the performer to give them that, day in and day out.

        But, I do think that Kris’ voice has suffered a bit since idol. He seems to struggle more for the low notes as well as the high ones. What he has chosen to do is not easy…its wear and tear on the mind and the body.”

        • et

          Her concern is touching.

        • naiya

          Maybe he should consider using one of those handy dandy vocal tracks to back him up?

          • Pandora

            And that way he could dance, because it’s much more important to have a good visual impact than to sing with emotion and heart.

          • ross

            Maybe he should consider using one of those handy dandy vocal tracks to back him up?

            Heh.

        • deez

          *sigh* are her posts about Adam this long?

          WTF? I think he sounds better now. Iremember all the “concern” last summer at the beginning of the tour. How will “poor Kris’s” voice hold up? He’s already so “strained”. If I recall, he had no problems at all.

          Someone who makes their living from their voice needs to be able to dig deep…look at broadway musicals, or Las Vegas shows (Celine Dion), or never ending concert tours (ala Cookie). Great singers can sing every night (at full voice) and twice on Wednesday for the matinee.

          Uh, isn’t that what he’s been doing the past year?

          • naiya

            I think it’s going to be a long week :)

          • ross

            Kris sounds better now than he did on Idol. Yes Tessie, he does work with a vocal coach. Yes, he did do 50+ Idol concerts and 70+ post Idol concerts and he’s always sounded good. So kindly stfu. thx.

          • Pandora

            And yes, Tess, Kris had never had a voice lesson before Idol, unlike many of the contestants. Wow, she should be impressed that he was able to show so much vocal control and skill with just his innate ability!

          • cc

            I don’t know guys… aren’t you excited that Tess is back! TESS IS BACK!! SHE’S BAAAACK!!1!! *tears of joy*

            LOL. I kinda missed her. With Lauren here and Destry commenting here, I almost forgot the difference between sane Lambert fans and Glamberts.

          • lostbrigade

            He DEFINITELY sounds better now than he did on Idol. I never even knew he could do some of the things he does with his voice until live performances of Is It Over.

    • sodagrape

      Ah, good old Tess, who believes that people aren’t successful unless she hears them on the radio — only she hasn’t listened to the radio in 30 years (except for an occasional 10 minutes here and there while her daughter is chauffeuring her around).

  • Dickory Dock

    I don’t want to compare Kris and Adam, because that isn’t really fair. They are so obviously going for different things with their music and performance styles.

    Having said that, please to be letting me compare them.

    Tastes differ &c but watching Adam perform amuses me and makes me a little sad for him. He’s like some sort of crazy assed self-parody, with the outré getups and the sparkly shit and the jazz hands.

    Kris is just Kris, up there digging playing with his band and feeling the music and hopping around a little bit.

    For me (for you) Adam is always performing out to the audience and that keeps me from feeling any sense of intimacy, or I don’t even know what to call it, with the actual music.

    Kris performs in a way to draw one into the music and share it, so you connect with the song and the performer.

    I guess that’s why I can’t take Adam seriously as a performer.

    • Kate123

      I think the thing that bugs me is that it seems like Adam gets extra credit as being ‘edgy’ and ‘inventive’ just because he’s a guy. The industry is littered with girls doing the exact same stuff and if he were female, I don’t think anyone would be throwing such hyperbolic praise at him.

      • jukejoint

        Plus Normund Gentle did the exact same things (although he went with the shiny poly shirt and shorts and headband for his brand of OTT instead of Adam’s vampire from Planet Hot Topic look) and he was fully aware it was a parody. Seeing Normund’s video really told the tale as far as I’m concerned, because there were the exact same dance moves, the same cheesy back-up dancers, the same general style. And it’s clear it’s supposed to be a joke, even without some of the jokier elements like the hair dye and the plaster of Paris makeup, and I still got the joke and I laughed. Adam seems to take it all so seriously that it’s even more hilarious. In a sad way.

        Sorry. Not trying to be mean. But it is funny.

        • deez

          Normund is a genius!

          • Dickory Dock

            Normund is love. He totally gets it.

            And then there’s Adam. When people criticize him he says, “It’s not that deep! Lulz!” Then I picture him sitting in the dark corner of a closet full of black silky Hammer pants, crying amongst the pointy toed boots, while trying to keep his sad and bitter tears from falling into the Ben & Jerry’s he’s shotgunning.

          • jukejoint

            That image is even more hilarious. And the tracks of his Ben & Jerry tears are easy to trace in all that makeup.

          • Burgundy LaRue

            With the right push, Normund could be the new Weird Al. I mean that as a compliment, because I loved Weird Al as a kid–he was someone who found the humor in pop music, but was talented on his own. Normund could be just as big.

          • muzikizmi

            Burgundy, how could you stop loving Weird Al? Sads. Was I supposed to outgrow that phase? Darn.

            Seriously, his album of a couple of years ago ‘Straight Out of Linwood’ is one of his best ever.

          • Burgundy LaRue

            Oh, I haven’t stopped loving the guy. I don’t have any of his albums, but I still like him a lot. “White & Nerdy” was a hoot!

          • DeeDee

            Weird Al is the reason I giggle every time Kris does his Heartless/Gangsters Paradise. I keep thinking of Al’s Amish Paradise.

  • snapcracklypop

    From what I hear, Kris’s band loves him so much that they are dedicated to go wherever he goes (correct me if I’m wrong). Kris said in the Kiss 108 interview, that the band members have become his best friends. So I just think it’s funny how you could even tell how happy they were to be playing music with him.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf1ph8S8R5E

    I like how gracious Krise was when the interviewer (oblivious to their camaraderie) asked him about Adam Lambert. “I love that guy, man. I really do. I think he’s great. He’s a great guy. We were roommates throughout the whole competition. We got to know each other really well. He’s incredible, man. He really is. He’s incredible.”

    Then the interviewer commented on how he can’t imagine what it’s like to find out having Adam as a roommate or something that sounded kind of douchey. Kris replied with, “WE actually decided to be roommates. We got to know each other through our group stuff and we decided ‘You know what, let’s be roommates.’ and it’s just funny that we ended up making it all the way through together.”

    • Lauren

      Kris was so sweet and charming in that interview. First, he has to react to the interview being about Adam, just like every one is, and then the guy goes and insults his friend! LOL perfect example of the interviewer being unprepared for the interview.

      • deez

        I think it’s funny how that was presented last year. The film was edited to look they went into the mansion together grudgingly and put their things up in a tentative manner. (Oh no! I have to live with the gay dude! …Oh no! I have to live with the judgmental fundie!)

        I wonder why Kris and Matt didn’t room together? They did in the prelim rounds, and were good friends. Surely Matt didn’t decide to room with Gokey of his own free will, lol.
        I wonder what sort of stories we’d gotten if Adam and Gokey had roomed together? Would there have been “Lambkey” or “Dandam” *throws up a little*? (sorry, TI)

        • Lauren

          Why are you apologizing to TI? I am the one you need to say sorry to!

          *pukes*

          • deez

            Just apologizing for the ill-concieved (and FORBIDDEN) shipping. I do apologize for giving you that visual though!

        • snapcracklypop

          Oh, I didn’t get the begrudgingly part. Anyway, that was too early in the show to know or suspect Adam’s sexuality or background. That was when they both made it to the Top 13 I think. The Idols didn’t have a choice in the beginning who they room with, and it sounded like Idol told Kris move in with Adam. I think they had to consolidate when contestants were getting eliminated. According to Adam, they put them together sort of randomly – and maybe by age or personality.

          • deez

            Awwwwww! Lauren tarding in 3…2…1…

  • kcmartian

    I watched the livestream starting from that Emily Osmend girl on. Judging from all the performances from that point on, Adam and Kris were head and shoulders above everyone else in terms of being able to sing live, putting on a show, and being enthusiastic about their music.

    I liked Adam’s set; my favorite songs were WWFM and Strut. I’m not an Adam fan really in terms of his music or his singing, but I can see the appeal and he really does put a lot of effort in his performances. And although I tend to go for singers who also play instruments, I feel like Adam uses his voice like a guitarist uses his guitar so…there you go. Most importantly, I had FUN watching him perform because I feel like HE was having fun. That’s important, I think, in a performer and he’s good at that.

    I’m definitely more of a Kris fan; his style, voice, and music is just more my thing. I’m the type of music listener who is more entertained by an acoustic guitar and intimate songs than production, dancers, and the whole she-bang. So obviously I’m biased :)

    I thought Kris’ set was good; there were some problems here and there with the sound, the guitars, and Kris’ vocals weren’t spot on the whole time but they were still good. IIO and TT were my favorites. I think he’s gotten better and better the past year and his confidence was front and center here.

    And confession: I didn’t think there would be a full house by the time Kris came on so I was pleasantly surprised lol (poor kris ;P)

    and dude needs to get rid of his guitar when he does Can’t Stay Away. It’s become a crutch and me no likey.

  • melvel

    From this review: http://www.boston.com/ae/music/articles/2010/05/24/kiss_concert_is_a_pop_driven_party_in_18_acts/

    “The concert’s primary draw, on the other hand, was indisputable, as Adam Lambert’s name elicited the loudest screams throughout the day. But if last year’s “American Idol’’ runner-up really were the once-in-a-generation game-changer KISS DJ Matty introduced him as being, he certainly wasn’t put on Earth to sing “Whataya Want From Me.’’ He was at his best, though still undeserving of the hyperbole, on “Sleepwalker,’’ which was dramatic but restrained, rather than everything screaming all the time.

    Reigning “American Idol’’ Kris Allen closed in fine, confident voice on almost uniformly terrible material. “Alright With Me’’ and the platitude-laden “Live Like We’re Dying’’ were both mindlessly chipper roots-pop, and the full-band version of Kanye West’s “Heartless’’ suggested that Allen didn’t really understand why his celebrated solo-acoustic version worked in the first place. But he nailed a cover of “Come Together,’’ as well as “Is It Over,’’ a twisty, bluesy gem in the vein of John Mayer or Ryan Adams.”

    Interesting

    • Destry

      Lol, so basically between Adam and Kris everything they sing sucks bad except for Sleepwalker and Is It Over. Ah well, at least they tried right? They can always attempt a music career in the next life (dabs at eyes after remembering stupid Lost finale tonight and stupid 2 1/2 hours of crying over people who don’t exist in real-people-world)

      btw, The Truth is now at 35 on HAC!

      • deez

        But Destry!!! The reviewer’s cred would be destroyed if he didn’t turn his nose up at AI alums! I think it’s funny that the concertgoers noticed that Adam and Kris (along with The Script) were the only performers who could actually sing, and SOMEHOW the reviewers missed it!

      • jukejoint

        I’m still a little misty over Lost, too. I don’t know what to think. I didn’t want Jack to die, damn it. I liked that they all made it to the afterlife together or whatever was happening in that church (or most of them. Didn’t see Michael or Walt or Richard, plus we know Ben stayed outside) but I’m still just gutted over Jin and Sun and now Jack, with the damn dog lying next to him and…

        They’re not real, they’re not real, they’re not real, they’re not real, they’re not real…

        • http://topidolblog.com TopIdol

          I did not watch Lost, but I knew enough about it and watched the finale last night.

          I’m really glad I didn’t waste 6 years of my life on that shit, as everyone told me to do. I was thinking about devoting a post to my thoughts on the matter, but that takes time!

          Anyway, I’m tired of the way lazy ass writers use religious beliefs as a cop-out, same thing happened with Galactica and has nearly ruined the entire series for me. All Lost told me was that everyone can go on to an afterlife (an afterlife very much like the Christian heaven, given that white light shit) no matter what they believe, except the only caveat may be if you’re single. God doesn’t want single people in heaven.

          I think everyone on Glee is already dead. And that’s awesome.

    • muzikizmi

      That ‘critic’ is such a Glambert. How can the ‘primary draw’ be someone who was added AFTER all of the tickets sold out?

      What a douche.

      At least he had nice things to say about Kris’ voice. It is also ‘funny’ that he loved the songs that other critics hate and hated the songs the other critics loved.

      It just goes to show, that ‘critics’ are just people with media access. They have no special insight, just an opinion, and an outlet for that opinion.

      I DO have to underline that one song on Kris’ set that he approved of, is the one written by Kris and Cale, with some tweaking by Mike Elizondo.

      • marissa

        “That ‘critic’ is such a Glambert”

        lol, are you joking? He didn’t even like Adam that much. Which is totally fine, of course, but people who don’t like Adam that much probably aren’t glamberts. :)

        • Pandora

          Since you apparently didn’t understand a key point of muzik’s post, let me repeat:
          How can the ‘primary draw’ be someone who was added AFTER all of the tickets sold out?

    • auntieaimee

      I thought it was a pretty good review for Kris, actually. Liked his voice, liked the song Kris and Cale wrote– that’s positive!

      • DeeDee

        Sad isn’t it that we have to consider this as being a good review?

    • MissMyEm

      I suppose everything is a matter of opinion. Personally I don’t share this jerk’s opinion. Oops. I meant to say this super talented and spot on knowledge of all good music.

  • suew

    I am neither an Adam fan or a Kris fan, all my votes last season went to one Allison Iraheta, about whom I am currently writing a book: “Allison Iraheta: Fourth to None.” I’ll let you know when I’m finished.

    However, whatever happened to Adam Lambert, Rock God, International Superstar? I thought he was supposed to be like the second coming of Queen. Whats with the techno pop?

    • Lauren

      However, whatever happened to Adam Lambert, Rock God, International Superstar? I thought he was supposed to be like the second coming of Queen. Whats with the techno pop?

      That is what happens when you listen to the words of the delusional Glamberts instead of what Adam actually said about the type of music he wanted to make. Adam said eclectic electro/ dance pop and the Glamberts heard classic rock.

      • suew

        Yep, I can see how it happened. Adam has a beautiful voice, but he lost me somewhere around the AMA awards. I don’t get him, and I’m not quite sure there is anything to get. He’s trying too darn hard to be the male gaga. The theatrics in my opinion are a turn off.

        • Lauren

          Apples and oranges :P

          (This is why Adam uses this so much. It is the perfect response to any disagreement!)

        • http://8sourcandy.wordpress.com/ 8sourcandy

          You are probably too old to enjoy him.Move on.

          • Lauren

            Play nicely, Sour! ;)

          • suew

            8sourcandy -

            Did you mean too young? I’m a little too young for the Grandmas for Glambert and sparkling clothing posses. And notice how nice I am, I didn’t use the most people use with “sparkling”.

            :)

      • Lamberkitten

        Good point Lauren. If only people would listen more to what Adam actually says about his music! I noticed that in interviews most of the questions were about his make up, nails and controversies. The music tended to get glossed over as if that couldnt possibly be as important to him. Admittedly most Idol’s first albums are usually hastily put together and generally viewed as fodder, without much integrity, so a general bias against Idol music is understandable to a degree. But in Adam’s case I think the bias is probably worse because for a lot of people can’t get past the imagery and controversy. He actually co-wrote 5 (and was lead co-writer on 4) of the tracks on the album and from the studio footage released with the album he seemed heavily involved with the arrangements and production too. Whether you actually like the result (I do – there are way more more hits than misses) or whether you like Kris Kris over Adam, or Adam over Kris – is always going to be a matter of taste: bananas and peaches?

        But the Kiss show: both Kris and Adam gave very competent performances – from Kris my favourite is still LLWD but the others’s would grow on me if I heard them enough I am sure. Am I allowed to say I loved Kris’s spray on pants? Yes, you say? Then I hope nobody will mind if I mention that I loved Adam’s too – shallow to the bitter end lol. Adam’s set list wasnt my favourite, but I liked Strut, Sleepwalker and of course the brilliant IIHY. And I guess I am the only one who missed Adam’s dancers……sigh

        • Lauren

          Being shallow is fun. xD

          Interviewers never ask the right questions. They just go for what is controversial. :(

    • deez

      “Allison Iraheta: Fourth to None.”

      Oh yeah!!! And you wouldn’t have to threaten us over Twitter to get us to pay!

    • blacklisted

      I’m SO buying “Allison Iraheta: Fourth to None”. Now that’s a tale that needs to be told!

    • et

      “Allison Iraheta: Fourth to None.” I’ll let you know when I’m finished.

      I am so buying that one. LOL!

      Man, I couldn’t get online last night and I think I had a little withdrawal or something. I like you guys over here at the fabulous TI blog :)

  • justpeachy

    According to MJ’s, Kris and Pat Monahan from Train did a duet (I’m assuming “The Truth”) during Kris’ set in San Antonio tonight. No video yet, just pictures.

    • nekola

      Here is the video:

      • Lauren

        Something I noticed is that Kris really starts to get into the song on the word “elephant”. Hee.

        That wasn’t awful though. I think I am getting used to this ruined version.

        • nekola

          Yeah, me too. I would like the song better w/o Pat’s vocals, but I love the song when Kris sings it live. He really connects emotionally to it. I love, love, love his lower register in the verses.

          • Borat83

            Agreed! And listen to the transition b/w Pat and Kris around 3:10. Pat has a unique tone, but he doesn’t have near the power or richness of Kris’ voice in my opinion, and I do like Train’s music. I think comparing the two voices invalidates the traditional Glambert mantra that Kris’ voice is weak and ‘reedy’ or ‘weedy’ (whatever the Lambrits call it).

          • DeeDee

            Well blacklisted you’ve certainly taken my idea and run with it, haven’t you?

        • deez

          Yeah, I liked it better live…except for the seasickness. I guess it’s b/c there were harmonies and Pat just doesn’t seem to get stuck in there out of nowhere like in the studio version.

      • rockpaperscissors

        Well done Grist Fallen, well done, you rock that MF elephant :)

        • DeeDee

          I think Kris should sex it up when he sings The Truth at the finale. Maybe wear a tight, white t-shirt and have a bucket of water fall on him from the ceiling. I mean if Adam got lasers and that swirly light, the least Idol could do is give Kris a bucket of water right? Wait who am I kidding? If Simon lit Kris on fire Idol wouldn’t spare the water to put him out!

          • blacklisted

            He needs to get a bucket of water thrown on him. Preferably wearing a thin white shirt, leggings and a bandana while stretching over a chair.

          • DeeDee

            My comment above is supposed to be here I think!

          • cc

            LOL! As long as the whole band (read: Cale and Andrew) wear the same outfit, I won’t mind. THAT WILL BE A “MOMENT”!!1ELEVENTY!11 ;) *perv*

          • DeeDee

            Oh God I’m so slow- I just got that this was a Flashdance reference. It just sounded like a really good idea! Well it is really late and I should be asleep.

          • jukejoint

            Maybe they can just put him in the white shirt and leggings and hand people in the audience hoses, so they can blast him during the show?

            But then I remembered that Cook threw water over his own head and shorted out his earpieces. We don’t what that happening to our little Flashdancer. Nix on the water.

          • blacklisted

            First when theres nothing
            but a slow glowing dream
            that your fear seems to hide
            deep inside…..

          • deez

            blacklisted permalink
            May 23, 2010
            He needs to get a bucket of water thrown on him. Preferably wearing a thin white shirt, leggings and a bandana while stretching over a chair.

            OK, I’m getting sleepy I guess …I just read that as “banana”…LOLOL.

          • et

            But then I remembered that Cook threw water over his own head and shorted out his earpieces. We don’t what that happening to our little Flashdancer. Nix on the water.

            That just made me laugh out loud. I scared my new foster dog, lol.

  • RarelyC

    Just gotta weigh in on the “groundbreaking” thing. Neither Adam nor Kris is doing anything that is musically groundbreaking, and if anyone thinks that they are — they are DELUSIONAL. And this is coming from a big Kris Allen fan. They are good performers. Very good, depending on what you like and who you compare them to. I think Kris has more upside because of his age and his musicianship. But that’s only an opinion. (As an aside, when people compare Adam to David Bowie, it makes me want to vomit. That is just ridiculous. Bowie wrote so much of his own stuff, and it really was different. )

    As for reviews that get posted, they are not really reviews and I couldn’t care less what they say — particularly when I saw/heard something for myself. For the first time ever, I went to two AI concerts this past summer, with about 10 different people who had various levels of interest of, and knowlege about, the show. We all came out with the same opinion about who was strongest and who was weakest — and those opinions were completely at odds with the “reviews” that I read. These reviewers are lazy, not terribly bright, and they make their s**t up, because absolutely NOTHING hinges on what they say.

    • MarkC

      I agree about neither being groundbreaking. It’s just not the case at all. I mean, both are really talented individuals, and creating something that can be called personal to them, but it’s nothing revolutionary by any means by either. Which, yeah, is great when it happens, but I’m content with something just being good over being different. And, often, what is called “different” is really only to a pretty relative frame, anyway.

      • saskin

        Groundbreaking??? If you use the word “song” very very loosely there are only a couple of songs on their albums that can be considered a “song”. Most is just pure crap and this does not say anything about the singers. I am talking about the whole production process of Idol albums. Do these albums represent these singers? I don’t think so. Are they capable of producing better, given time? I don’t know. I think they’re doing the best they can with what they are given.

  • Marie

    You know I keep trying to like this site. But just when it is starting to sound sane all the negative comments start. Can we not discuss people as individuals and give objective comments that don’t resort to childish comparisons and name calling. Yet another site which is not of the real world. In the real world people discuss not degrade!

    • deez

      ??? There’s some discussion going on here. You perplex me.

  • ross

    Gee, I don’t think I can stand any longer listening to the people who have a psychological resistance to anything good happening to Krust Affleck. The revisionist history that goes on on a daily basis to shore up their neuroses is a wonder to behold. Kress Alston was the headliner. No, he wasn’t. Krysz did great. No, he would have done better if he had performed earlier in the day. The kids loved him. No, Ke$ha is their core audience. Etc. Draining.

    • rockpaperscissors

      Amen!

      Long Live Krust Alfin!

      • ross

        And his charming wife, Kirsti!

        • deez

          Whatever happened to Katty’s (nod to pooporange) webshow thingy?

    • muzikizmi

      Yep, TI said the place was still jammed with 20,000 tweens until the end of the show. Said tweens sang Live Like We’re Dying while playing dead. That’s who I am going to believe.

      • ross

        How old are tweens, anyway? That reminds me of an old joke about a summer camp “for boys between the ages of thirteen.”

        I think there are also a lot teens at that concert. But anyway, 20,000 screamin’, singin’ humans can’t be wrong, I alwasy say. :)

        • ross

          –a lot “of” teens.

        • ross

          always

        • Lauren

          Tweens are pre-teens so I guess 11-13.

      • MissMyEm

        I brought my Krust Alarn CD for my 4th grade class to listen to while they were doing some projects. They wanted Michael Jackson, but I forced the tykes to listen to Krust. Funny…the minute they heard LLWD…the atmosphere changed. Several said that they loved the song and sang along with it. Ah youth.

    • muzikizmi

      Kris was the headliner. The 20,000 expensive tickets were sold out, before Adam was even added to the lineup.

      He should be on stage in San Antonio right about now. How many miles is that from Boston? That guy must consume a lot of Red Bull, to keep up that schedule.

    • margie

      Oh Ross don’t let them get to ya!! It’s their life mission the spread the word…Krwis Allon is a douche!! Learn it, Live it, Breath it and for heaven sakes spam every known internet entity with this “Truth”. ;)

      • rockpaperscissors

        Margie, they do try so hard to spread their manure – I have to come to TopIdol just to see some sane Glamberts in action so I don’t break my computer or get banned from the sites I go to.
        It’s refreshing to have real conversations with the likes of Lauren and Destry, helps me to dial down my Glambert hate.

        “group hug”

        • Lauren

          Awwwww! *hugs back*

          • Destry

            Thanks! *joins hug/throws handfuls of figurative glitter in the air*

      • jukejoint

        Just read this on ew’s Lost finale preview, from the Doc Jensen guy who has been writing about Lost forever:

        Apparently, these folks can’t be content to have an opinion of their own — they seem to think I must share it, too.

        So, you know, it isn’t just AI or Glamberts or the mythological three or four fans of Krispy Alien. It’s everywhere where people lose their minds and post on the internet, anyway.

    • Mithra

      I clicked on MJs comments hours earlier for about two minutes. From what I could tell, Adam was sweaty and a huge debate broke out if there were sweat stains or if it was his jacket design. They still need to post 10 times more than any thread featuring Krispy Allah, particularly if they are one after the other. Oh, and I saw some posts here about some farmer “man” tweeting and wondered if the cows now think their udders are penises.

      • rockpaperscissors

        LMAO – I peeked in there as well and had the same reaction. You know they are posting just to have the biggest comment section for the biggest sweaty Rock Gawd ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111!

        Poor Knute Cobbler – always bridesmaid, never a bride “big sigh”

        • jukejoint

          Oh, man. I remember the days when Adam was supposed to be superhuman and better than everybody else (much better than that sweaty bald dwarf Coars Altoid) because he didn’t sweat. Ever. At all. He was a sweatless wonder of nature.

          Pity that sweatless thing didn’t work out.

          • boadicea

            Love it when he sweats.

    • nerdgirl

      Bald, mediocre midgets should not be allowed to close anything with their weak voices and monkey faces. Somebody call the police and escort him from the stage, this cheater-cheater Chik-fil-a eater

      • ross

        Well, next week someone else wil be the American Idol, at least. And it still won’t be Adam. Ha.

        • rockpaperscissors

          ross, that made me LOL. Poor Adam, what? wait….

        • MissMyEm

          Ross…LMAO from your comment.

        • Pandora

          Oh, this makes my morning, Ross. Ross FTW!

  • boadicea

    Funniest remark re Lambert – the reviewer feels he sometimes sounds too much like the album. Yes – and the reason for that is that he’s a remarkable LIVE singer. Gotta give him credit for that as so few other performers can do anything live remotely like their studio versions. And, actually, if you’re at all familiar with Lambert’s recordings, he DOES change it up – and quite a bit. This IIHY had many differences from the album – he does WWFM in many different way (most beautifully acoustic) – and Sleepwalker can be rocked out as on Leno. One most realize, too, that Lambert is capable of singing many types of songs from rock to pop and trying to label him as just rock isn’t correct. He’s a chameleon, both in dress and performance. Some might find that interesting and exciting. WGWG’s are a dime a dozen.

  • blacklisted

    So I just watched Ke$ha’s performance in Boston:

    1) Yes, I still want to bang her…gawd those long legs and athletic build are my downfall (I have no shame).

    2) No, I don’t want to hear her sing live (I’m not completely lacking in taste).

    • Lauren

      Perfect description of Ke$ha. She is gorgeous and fun, but not really a singer. xD

  • Lauren

    I didn’t watch the livestream but I am currently watching the youtube videos at Sour’s blog. I agree with Destry. I think Adam did so much better here than Wango Tango. I really don’t find him to be fake. Part of Adam’s personality is that he enjoys dressing up, dying his hair, and wearing mkae-up. I have a friend who dyes her hair a new color every month and while it isn’t natural, it’s more real. She just wouldn’t be the same person without her oddly colored hair. It is the same with Adam. The black hair and nail polish make him Adam.

    I thought Kris did an amazing job too! I haven’t watched all the vids yet but I thought he did a great job on “Live Like We’re Dying.” “Alright With Me” is always fun too. It’s so great that Kris and Adam got to perform in the same concert. It shows how successful both of them have become. :D

    • justpeachy

      Well, Lauren, it is true that we don’t accuse Allison of being fake simply because of her kool-aid colored hair. And if Adam’s pleased with his own performances, then he should continue doing what he’s doing. I will say that back-up dancers will forever and always remind me of that cruise I took when I was seventeen.

      Also, cheater-cheater, Chick-fil-a eater is my new putdown. Thanks, nerdgirl.

      • Mithra

        I know – that was hilarious :D Kerry should steal it and make it the new title of her tome. It’s far more catchy and gets the point across nicely :P

  • nerdgirl

    I like how Adam fans posts are 10 miles long, so it’s easy to recognize and skip, sorry.

    I think, you hit a nail on the head TI – Adam seems very empty and not real – because he is not. Real Adam does not have black hair, real Adam is not that young (almost 30). He was pretending on Idol to be a “rock star”, now he is pretending to be a “pop star”. Which is a shame, really. He should accept himself for who he is: chubby, redheaded kid with freckles and nice voice.

    And I am starting to like Kesha – she does not take herself too seriously and is not pretentious, just partying and having fun. Isn’t it what pop music is about?

    • Destry

      But then by that standard a lot of people are fake. Real Destry doesn’t have blonde hair (I changed it from dark brown last year cuz I liked it), Lady Gaga’s a brunette, Miley wears extensions, and Bon Jovi botoxed his face to look like a thirty year old. I think it’s cool to rock whatever look you want if that’s the look that you feel expresses your personality, attitude, and characteristics (mmkay those three are all the same thing).

      If we’re gonna judge every musician or performer based on alterations in appearance then that’s a whole lotta fake people.

      • Destry

        Okay, maybe not the botoxing part.

      • nerdgirl

        Yep.

        • Destry

          So anyone who’s ever plucked their eyebrows, put on lipstick or eyeliner, or altered their natural appearance is anyway is fake?

          • jukejoint

            Nope. But the people who hide behind a wall of makeup or masks or botox or whatever else their weapon of choice is are usually both sad AND fake in my book. See: Heidi Montag and Michael Jackson. I think some people are insecure enough about who they really are inside that they need the Kabuki makeup and the hair dye and the costumes and the nose jobs and boob jobs and lipsuction to hide behind, so that the real/unworthy person inside will never see the light of day. It’s not just the STUFF, the wall, the barricade. It’s whether there is somebody real looking out the eyeholes, or whether the real person ever gets to come out.

            So what about Adam?

            Fakefakefakefakefake. (TM: Elaine Benes.)

          • Destry

            Wow, I didn’t know eyeliner equated to a barricade. Anyway, nice, cool people can wear black too. They don’t all have to be brooding, gothic “princes of darkness.” Nice people can also rock weird styles, green hair, glittery makeup, and platform boots. For me, people are fake who act fake. If someone is comfortable in their skin, happy, and appreciative of their individuality, they are not fake, eyeliner included. Let them rock whatever style they feel happiest in.

            But I fully agree with you on the boob job, plastic surgery crap. So the second Adam gets a nose job and a neck lift (real?) to remove his double chin… I will fully share your sentiment.

            (And I’ll owe you twenty bucks :) )

          • http://topidolblog.com TopIdol

            I wear a lot of black. Hell, when I was at the Rock My Town show, I had on blue tights, a black dress and black boots with rivets on them. Clearly I was dressed like ONE OF THEM :)

          • Nich

            I’m a NYer, all I wear is black.

          • erinnthered

            One of the Glamberts at the Indio show asked me how I knew to wear dark nail polish if I wasn’t a Glambert. I had to explain that OPI Lincoln Park After Dark is my regular, daily color. She seemed confused that people actually dress like that in every day life, and it’s not a costume.

            I pretty much agree with everything you said about Adam’s performance style. He did try to mix it up and Indio, with varied success. I’ve said it before, but the only time it came across as genuine was when he let go and got theatrical and cabaret in his style. I think he’s afraid to let go because who he really is just isn’t “edgy” enough.

          • jukejoint

            I don’t know that you’re replying to me, Destry, but since you mentioned “barricade” you must be talking to me. So, anyway, I don’t see that I mentioned eyeliner at all. I said Kabuki makeup and a wall of makeup. I also said Kabuki makeup and hair dye and costumes and nose jobs and boob jobs and lipsuction… Note the use of “and” as opposed to “or.”

            All that stuff isn’t a barricade? To me, it’s all about putting this wall of makeup and fakery in between you and the audience so they can’t see person’s real expression or face anymore. As I said, Michael Jackson is my example of that. Do you really think he did all that junk because that was who he really was? Or was he trying to hide the real Michael because of self-loathing and serious unhappiness?

          • Destry

            Def Michael Jackson had issues with image, no doubt about it. And I was saying I agree with you that many people do hide behind looks, especially when they go to the extremes of plastic surgery.

            That being said, there are also people who simply wear what they want because that’s what they like. They’re comfortable enough in their own skin to feel the freedom to put on whatever clothes, hair color, or jewelry they want despite what others think. I was saying that some people, like Adam for example, simply LOVE to wear black (that’s referring to other posts I’ve seen about him trying to look like a “prince of darkness”). He loves eyeliner and nail polish, and applying crazy makeup because that is simply the style he enjoys.

            I think he’s not hiding, but comfortable with who he is no matter what he’s wearing. I don’t think the makeup, hair dye, and costumes are a barricade cuz he’s not hiding behind them, he simply uses them to decorate himself for fun. The clothes, the jewelry, the crazy hair styles, are not him trying to be “edgy” or “controversial”, it’s just a style he truly enjoys and has fun rocking out in.

          • Destry

            And this contributes absolutely NOTHING to our conversation, jukejoint, but I really dig the style Adam wears cuz it’s the same style Emily Blunt sported in The Devil Wears Prada. It’s that urban underground high fashion that emphasizes dramatic colors and dangling, eclectic jewelry. It’s really fun! (fashion freak here) It’s especially popular in Germany and I think that’s where Adam encountered it when he was in his early twenties.

            But maybe his taste will change? MAYBE he’ll get into the plaid shirt, jeans, and brown belt style next year?

    • Lauren

      Nerdgirl, that’s kind of ridiculous. Changing up your look is fun and makes you feel prettier. It doesn’t make you fake. I do understand some of the comments about him seeming like he is playing a part, but it definitely has nothing to do with the fact that he has dyed hair.

      • nerdgirl

        It’s not about changing your looks, it’s about whether your look fits your image. For example Adam makes himself look like some kind of prince of darkness, but his personality is sweet, like a guy next door = disconnect. He wants to sing young music, but he is not young, he has big voice, but sings easy songs etc. Therefore, he APPEARS fake to me, I don’t know him personally, I only see what he presents to the world. Even though Lady Gaga is pretentious in my book, she plays her role of stand-offish creature from the other world pretty well.

        And it’s just MY opinion, no need to get so upset. Also, don’t you want to know how Adam appears to the non-fan, so he could work on making more fans?

        • rockpaperscissors

          GaGa never breaks character either – she is GaGa all the time. Adam changes and adapts to every situation. Sweet as honey in some interviews (Oprah), all edgy and OTT in others (Rolling Stones) = disconnect.

          • Lauren

            Rolling Stones also misquoted him a bit though in order to make him appear edgier.

            And have you never considered that maybe these are all the real Adam? He is a very complex person or maybe he just has multiple personalities. xD

          • nerdgirl

            It may be all real Adam, of course. From my life experience (I am old, probably should have picked better name nerd-female, maybe?) it may mean that he is still looking for himself, which is OK in real life. In music business, unfortunately, he is a product that should have some sort of integrity, for example, if you bite into something that look like an apple, you don’t expect it to taste like a cheeseburger…

          • Lauren

            I think it would be kind of awesome if my apple tasted like a cheeseburger (as long as it’s tofu!) Maybe that is why I am a fan of Adam and you are not. You see Adam’s multiple personalities as fake, I see it as complexity of character. Apples and oranges?

            xD I had to!

    • Gene

      Why do you even give a sh!t what color Adam’s hair is? His black hair suits him more than his natural strawberry blonde anyway. It’s pathetic how some people nitpick every little thing Adam does.

      • Destry

        It goes both ways, glamberts nitpick Kris to death as well (which you prob know).

        Anyway, last “fans” opinion for today, and then I’ll dial it back from now on. On “rocker” Adam vs. “pop” Adam, on AI from the beginning he said his influences ranged from Katy Perry and Lady Gaga to Led Zeppelin and Queen. He has different styles and sides to him. But during the show he did sing more rock because it set him apart, because his voice natually has a rock sound, that Axl Rose-Robert Plant-Steve Tyler sound. Since the show he hasn’t changed his sound, his look, his voice, his flamboyance. In songs like Sleepwalker and Whataya Want From Me he still wails and riffs the exact same way. But he’s plugged that sound into more pop songs on the album to establish himself on Top 40 airplay and get his feet planted in the three genres he likes most.

        But he’s not totally rock (stupid Kara and your ROCK GAWD comment)
        Meh. Either way, it doesn’t matter for certain posters like rockpaperscissors cuz he falls flat with both rock and pop anyway.

        BTW, I love you rockpaperscissors, that wasn’t a slam, your posts rock (especially on Mj’s cuz of people’s reactions)

        Have a good night! Peace!

        • blacklisted

          Yep, Adam is pure pop who likes some old schoolish rockers. Every artist is influenced by people outside his/her chosen genre. It just makes the artist well rounded to appreciate the diversity in music. There are rock artists who enjoy some pop music and are influenced by r&b, blues, etc. It doesn’t make them pop or r&b. Just like Adam liking Queen and being influenced by them doesn’t make him rock. Hell, Queen had classical elements so it’s not like they were purely rock either.

        • Lauren

          I don’t want you to dial it back. There’s nothing wrong with being a fan as long as you don’t tard. And you are not even close to tarding. Everything you say is reasonable and intelligent. I’m kinda jealous. xD

          • cc

            Agree with you, Lauren. I really enjoy reading your comments, Destry. :)

          • rockpaperscissors

            I agree with Lauren, your posts are nontardy and well thought out. Your posts are also complimentary to Mr Krist Helen – way too normal for a Glambert :)
            I think you better hide your fan club card cuz word on the street at PF is that the Gliztapo are on the hunt for it.

            Lauren, you have some stiff competition for “Sane Glambert of the Year”
            People, to vote please visit http://www.anotherpolltospam.com – come on now we can do this -KK is currently in the lead!!!!1111!!!!!!!!

          • Lauren

            Lauren, you have some stiff competition for “Sane Glambert of the Year”

            IKR?! First Marissa came, then Lamberkitten came back, and then now Destry is here. I am no longer so sure of my victory. I am ok with this though. As I have been the frontrunner for so long, I expect an Kolschian expose in the event that I don’t win.

          • blacklisted

            Lauren, stop being humble. As an Adam fan, it doesn’t suit you! You know your the BESTEST!1!!111

          • Lauren

            OMG!11!!1!!1!! I AM LYK THE SANEST FAN EVAHHHHHHHH!!11!!!11111111!!!

            Better?

          • blacklisted

            Too subtle. hehe

  • marissa

    IMO Adam is himself onstage–that’s part of what makes people interested in him, that he’s totally himself onstage and not afraid to be a little weird. He’s himself in the way that Gaga or Pink or the Scissor Sisters or Bowie are themselves onstage–they’re theatrical and they’re crazy sometimes and there’s a lot of spectacle involved, and that is absolutely who they are as artists (again, not comparing them all talent-wise, just style-wise). But any time an artist is more theatrical and less obviously “human” they’re more likely to be seen as false instead of just different. Which is fine, opinions differ. But Adam is like Lady Gaga to me in the sense that they both sometimes come across like they’re trying too hard, but most of the time they’re just being true to themselves as artists, and who they are as artists is a little offbeat. :)

    Also, part of what makes Adam awesome is that he changes up his songs a lot–he uses his voice like an instrument and he’s always really into the moment with the music and so he can play around with the songs.

    Kris is talented, but IMO he’s not terribly creative musically and the music itself isn’t that interesting. As a performer and a singer, he’s just sort of normal.

    Adam is extremely creative musically, in the way he sings and performs, and I like that in an artist. :)

    These reviews sort of say what I mean–not that reviews are gospel or anything (duh), just that they can be more eloquent sometimes, lol:

    “Kris Allen, whose reign as “American Idol” champion is coming to a close, battled sound problems throughout his closing set, and too much of his material, including his latest single, the power ballad “The Truth,” fell into the generic, earnest pop-rock of so many “Idol” winners, but the fleet, nimble “All Right With Me” had personality, as did Allen in its performance. He finished up with the hit “Live Like We’re Dying” and his cover of The Beatles’ “Come Together.”

    If the subplot of the concert was a rematch of the “Idol” finals between Allen and Adam Lambert, Lambert won out on Saturday. Starting with the dramatic “Whataya Want From Me” and tearing quickly into the glam-rock of “Music Again,” Lambert wasted no time establishing himself, showing the confidence – and the pearlescent vocal chops – to stand and deliver without a lot of stage patter or drama. The melding of electro sounds and rock structures in the new single “If I Had You” were compelling, and the volcanic keyboard bass of “Strip” got a party started. Last year wouldn’t be the first time that solid versatility won “American Idol” but the runner-up demonstrated qualities that don’t get measured by the TV show’s format.”

    http://artsblog.projo.com/2010/05/kiss-concert-brings-a-full-plate-of.html

    “Taking the stage at sundown, Lambert imbued the venue with his dark mystique, sporting a Mohawk, full makeup and all-black attire. Maybe dropping the f-bomb to introduce his new single “If I Had You” wasn’t the best move, but the rest of his set made up for it.”

    http://www.bostonherald.com/entertainment/music/general/view.bg?articleid=1256643

    As an aside, Topidol–why do you keep saying that you wished you could like Adam? It’s totally fine not to really enjoy him that much. There are plenty of artists where I can see that they’re talented, but they’re just not my thing, and I don’t wish that I liked them more because we can’t all like every artist. :)

    • rockpaperscissors

      Wow, it took longer for the reviews to get posted than I thought it would :)

    • deez

      That’s what I don’t like about these reviews. It made it sound as if the night was a competition which Kris lost. No mention about how they were 2/3 of the acts who actually sounded good live? It wasn’t really negative for Kris, I guess…more of a negative for the single. (which is generic IMO)

      Sometimes I wonder how much the Glamberts have altered my opinion of Adam’s performances. Almost every reviewer seems to prefer Adam, and I always (of course, lol) prefer Kris. Reviewers don’t deal with the Glamberts…I wonder if I had never encountered the herd, if I would feel differently? hmmmmmmmmmm.

      • nerdgirl

        Reviewers ARE Glamberts…

      • Idoltard10

        deez, they’ll always make it a contest cuz we found them in a contest. And they’ll put a deliberately negative spin on the one least preferred. Both performances were great..just waaaayyy different. That brings to mind something both Kris and Adam said repeatedly in the post Idol Top 2 press blitz: apples and oranges. No real comparison, they’re too different. It’s gonna come down to personal taste.

        • deez

          True. I just read the review from the Boston Herald that said Kesha was understandably the fan favorite.

          (that reviewer pretty much panned the whole concert because it featured mostly “new” acts. (new doesn’t mean bad, does it?) She seemed to like Adam, didn’t mention The Script or Kris–which was ok I guess, seeing as that 90% of what she said wasn’t good)

      • muzikizmi

        Deez, I can’t speak for you, but I would still like Kris better if he had finished in 9th place. He had me from Ain’t No Sunshine. I know what I like in music, and Kris hits everything on my list.

        Many of the newspaper reviewers picked Adam to win, early in season 8. They have taken it as a personal affront, that America didn’t agree with them. They will take every opportunity they can get to declare Adam the ‘real’ winner, just to vindicate themselves.

        It won’t ever change my mind, because I don’t need them to tell me what I like. However, I do think the Glamberts have made me dislike Adam a bit, when I probably wouldn’t have ever cared about him at all, otherwise. Adam hits everything I don’t like in music, except for the fact that he does sing in key, and he doesn’t do thug rap.

        • Mithra

          Many of the newspaper reviewers picked Adam to win, early in season 8. They have taken it as a personal affront, that America didn’t agree with them. They will take every opportunity they can get to declare Adam the ‘real’ winner, just to vindicate themselves.

          You hit the nail on the head. They don’t want egg on their faces. The fact is though, these people are just as delusional if they think people really think their opinion matters. These people are not Greil Marcus, Dave Marsh, Lester Bangs, and so on…

      • marissa

        Deez: You might have felt differently, but then again, we all have different likes and dislikes in music and Adam probably never would have been your thing. I can see that maybe if you feel lukewarm about an artist, then his or her fans could push you into disliking them, but your opinion probably wouldn’t be that different. Which is fine, we can’t all like the same thing. :) I’m not saying you guys should like Adam, just giving my opinion about why I do. :)

        • deez

          Well, the thing is, I DID like him on the show. I didn’t become a Kristard until” Aint No Sunshine”, and even then, there were some weeks I liked Adam or Allison better. (those 3 were the only ones that ever got my votes) Even during the finale, I had no real preference as to the winner (although I tend to go for the underdog). I would’ve been fine with Adam winning. It was over the summer that I went off Adam, and honestly, a lot of it had to do with the Sparkly Herd at MJ’s. Since the albums have come out, I can say that Kris is more to my taste. The herd would’ve had no effect on my Kris preference, but I honestly think they have influenced my appreciation of Adam in a negative way. That’s why I appreciate the Adam fans here who don’t continually bring up sales figures and whatnot in an attempt to prove to me that my own taste is wrong. Many Glamberts seem unfamiliar with the old honey/flies adage.

          • margie

            Deez Adam started losing me by his fans behavior this summer. Then he released his album. Sorry not a fan of the direction he went with his album. I love bad music from 80′s movies like the next gal, but not in 2010. That is what his album sounds like to me. Half bad 80′s movie songs. Just not my cuppa musically. Still like Adam as a person though :) and I do like Whatta Want From Me and Sleepwalker. :)

    • dixiegal88

      I just read one of the Arts Blog review and he was totally discounting Script and making it sound like the auto-tuned Hannah Montana wanna-be and the rest of the “pop artists” were on par with them …I don’t think so. The Script live are phenomenal, and the lead singer, Danny has more charisma in his little finger than Emily Osment or Lyaz would ever hope to have. Makes me wonder if that person was even there.

      • muzikizmi

        Yep Dixiegal, but The Script are a pop rock band, and that just bores Mr. Artsy to tears. Someone should tell the guy, that there are a lot of successful pop rock bands, because a lot of people love that genre. Maybe that makes it too pedestrian for someone writing for an ‘arts’ blog. Too bad for him.

    • blacklisted

      Some people see him as being derivative of Gaga, Bowie, et all on stage, marissa. I’m guessing TI is pointing out the stage persona which is an act and which Adam pebbled together.

      IMO he’s growing as an artist. He hasn’t performed (album) that much thus he’ll find his footing and drop some of that fake/copy cat stage thing. I always assumed it’s a protective barrier anyway.

      It’s not a completely genuine stage persona like Gerard Way who works a stage persona different from his every day self. IMO someone like Gerard comes across as genuine b/c he let’s himself go and explores this other part of himself on stage, which different from his real self but still a component of who he is.

      Adam is very aware. Maybe it’s b/c he’s an actor and sees it as a role. Don’t know. Some people will dig it and other’s will find it ‘fake’. Whatevah. AI was probably the devil and made him even more self-aware. In a year or two he’ll probably let his hair down more.

      • marissa

        I think that Adam has elements of Bowie (not talent-wise, again, just style-wise) and other artists in his stage persona, but he’s still doing his own thing and in his own style as a performer. Sort of like how Gaga clearly has major elements of Madonna and other artists in her stage persona, but IMO she’s still got her own style. I’m not super-familiar with My Chemical Romance, but I’ve heard Gerard Way called really creative and I’m heard him called uncreative or juvenile for (in some people’s eyes) using the stage gay thing to drum up interest.

        Almost no one, if anyone, is completely non-derivative, but I think artists like Adam and Gaga are still creative. :)

        Of course, it’s not like there’s no room to improve so it’ll be interesting to see what changes or develops as he does his own tour. :)

        And again, this is just my opinion, there’s no artist in the world who can appeal to everybody.

        My Chemical Romance is a band I’ve actually been interested in checking out for a while–what album or songs would you recommend starting with?

        • Lauren

          Wait…Gerard Way is gay? Why are all the pretty ones gay?

          • blacklisted

            Gerard Way is Gerard Way, Lauren. He’s married but he doesn’t proclaim being heterosexual even though a lot of people’s response to his marriage was, ‘Gerard married a bassist on tour, that’s nice…oh wait, the bassist was a woman?!’

          • Lauren

            Married is just as bad! Haha. I am not a huge MCR fan but I am definitely a fan of Gerard Way’s face.

          • blacklisted

            I had no idea anyone else on here even knew who the hell Gerard was! Yeah, Gerard does his thing, it’s not an ‘act’ or some bullshit stage gay thing. As he told an interviewer, when he’s on stage he does whatever feels natural to him and yeah, sometimes that means tweaking his bandmates nipple, licking someone’s chest, pretending to perform fellation or kissing Frank Iero. Jeez, must artists always fit a neat box? ;-)

            Here’s a vid of Frankie/Gee through the years.

        • blacklisted

          MCR don’t use ‘stage gay’, they are affectionate on stage and off. Part of their style and actions (i.e. kissing, touching, riling up guys) comes from being politicized and against homophobia, sexism, and racism in the scene. You should watch Life on the Murder Scene (dvd) to get a sense of the band and their views (Gerard’s feminist tirade at one concert is a highlight).

          Gerard and Frank were out there when they played basements in the early days so not surprisingly, when they played in front of homophobic frat boys they did their thing which yeah, freaked out some in the audience.

          Prior to getting sober Gerard had a short lived, intense (probably drug fueled) friendship/relationship with Bert from The Used. I don’t think that relationship was faked to drum up publicity either.

          In terms of recommendations, I like the punkish quality of their first album but it’s not as tight as their next two albums. Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge has more of a rebellious streak while The Black Parade is polished. Both those albums are conceptual. Revenge in terms of it’s loose theme about two lovers seperated when one is killed and bargains to see his lover. The Black Parade is the better rock opera of the two and also has an interconnected storyline. Famous Last Words is probably their greatest song but it’s better to hear it after the build up of the other songs in The Black Parade.

          The early stuff I still listen to (Honey, This Mirror Isn’t Big Enough for the Two of Us, You Know what they do to guys like us in Prison, I’m Not Okay (I Promise), Cemetary Drive, Vampires will never hurt you).

          • marissa

            No no, Blacklisted, I like what Gerard does from the relatively little I’ve seen. I’m sorry, I really didn’t mean to sound like I was insulting him or calling it in act, just saying that I know some people think that, so therefore there are different opinions about every artist. Like some people love that Lady Gaga is “Gaga” all the time and some people feel like it’s a pretentious act–there are different opinions.

            From what I’ve seen and heard (I have a couple friends who are big fans), he’s awesome and very talented. I like that he doesn’t “fit a neat box” and IMO artists who play around with perceptions about sexuality are great. :) Thanks for the recommendation. :)

          • Mithra

          • blacklisted

            “just saying that I know some people think that, so therefore there are different opinions about every artist.”

            Because one idiot like phabella who created wank by throwing MCR’s name into her Pete Wentz ‘stage gay’ rant and later acknowledged that she knew nothing about MCR, constitute “some people”. lmao @ the idea at people being polarized about Gaga (whom they see in various forums) being comparable to a FEW folks slinging shit over something they know nothing about. No comparison, dearie. :-)

    • ross

      So who does Kris have to bang to get a good newspaper review?

      The trouble with the internet is that now every person who writes a review for any paper anywhere is read by fans all over the country and the world. Previously, they were only read in their town or region. Really, I don’t think some reviewer in Providence, or Attleboro, Vermont, should be quoted as if they’re an authority on anything.

      • rockpaperscissors

        ,blockquote>So who does Kris have to bang to get a good newspaper review?

        *raises hand*

        • rockpaperscissors

          so excited I blockquote failed LOL

          • muzikizmi

            RPS, that is perfectly understandable. :)

        • Lauren

          Hey, I was going to say that! I can get him a good review in my school newspaper. I am friends with the new Editor-in-chief.

          • ross

            You’re all just bad, bad girls.

          • ross

            :)

          • cc

            LOL. Based on your monsters rockpaperscissors and muzikizmi , you already had a “raised hand”. Even though I want to join, I can’t cos I don’t have a freaking hand!!1!!

            Oh well, I’ll take solace atleast my monster looks like an elephant with bat, unicorn and lizard thrown in the mix. ;)

          • Lauren

            CC, I’ll raise a kitten if I have to!

          • deez

            Has anyone read reviews of his performances at concerts that didn’t feature Adam? I really don’t remember ever seeing any that actually critiqued his performance. I think the one from the Bahamas (for example) just gave the facts…the what, when, and where. (no “how”) Usually that’s all I see, Kris was here, he sang X,Y, and Z. I have no idea how the person felt about it.

            I don’t get what the problem is, but it feels “they” all know what it is. He’s got a good voice. He’s likable and funny. He’s nice looking. Maybe the music isn’t anything new…but truthfully, that’s pretty rare. A lot of it, I think, is still backlash, and a perception that isn’t true (bland, boring). Anti-AI snobbery doesn’t help.

          • ross

            Well, what is that sticking out of my big, bright fuschia head?

          • ross

            I’ll raise that.

          • deez

            ross permalink
            May 23, 2010
            Well, what is that sticking out of my big, bright fuschia head?

            LOL. I’ve been caught reading this blog so many times it’s not funny. The last time, someone looking over my shoulder said, “Aw…I like Ross, he’s a horny little tomato.” So there you go: Unicornato.

          • ross

            Ha! If I had a nickel for every time I’ve been called a horny little tomato…

          • deez

            LOL

          • deez

            Ross, didn’t you and Kris have a chat in an elevator or something? I remember something about that from MJ’s. (one of the things I didn’t block out of memory from the tour discussions over there)

          • ross

            I saw him at Mechanics Hall in Worcester (MA), back in December, and I left during the Barenaked Ladies encore. Actually I saw the band (minus Cale) coming out of the elevator, so I talked to them, walked out with them to the sidewalk, where their bus was. Then when some other fans wanted to take pics with them, I hung back and waited for Kris, figured he’d be coming out of the same elevator. He was with Lizzie (I think). So I just went up to him and said the show was great, and talked to him for a while. He and the band were all really friendly and nice.

      • jukejoint

        I write for a newspaper. I review theater. I did the American Idol tour a few years ago when they came close enough for me to convince my editor that he should send me. Cause otherwise we’re so puny we don’t send anybody to review music. Newspapers are dying. Arts coverage was the first to go. Online bloggers who don’t get paid but who can maybe score free tickets by promising a “review” in the blog are all that smaller areas like mine have left. Even the big newspapers are cutting staff right and left and not hiring anybody to fill vacancies, and we’re talking areas like sports that are their bread and butter. Entertainment? Arts? Who gives a crap? The small ones haven’t been covering stuff like music or movies for years. They buy a service like UPI or AP and use their movie and music reviews and then they don’t have to pay anybody on their own staff to do it. There were so many angry letters to the editor when Donny Osmond came through and nobody reviewed his concert. The features editor is like, shrug, I got two people left in features/entertainment and one of them is me. Who am I supposed to send? He’ll do previews, but not reviews.

        So all I’m saying is that just because somebody has a review on line does not mean that they are being paid for that opinion or that anybody is vetting or editing their writing or that there are any standards whatsoever. It’s a wild and woolly world out there for people who want to write about the arts.

        • ross

          So that helps explain a lot. I actually felt that, where Kris was concerned, when he got out of the Idol sphere, the critics would like him because, like the radio guy said yesterday, he was the serious musician. Even at last night’s concert, I would assume a music reviewer would note that he plays and writes and probably arranges his own music, and he has more authenticity than many Idol pop singers. But I’ve also noticed that many music reviewers don’t seem to judge things by these standards now.

        • deez

          Hmmmm. So a lot of the reviewers are people trying to score free tickets? Interesting. That doesn’t sound like impartiality. (I know reviewers aren’t totally impartial like judges, but that’s just inviting bias.)

        • nerdgirl

          Isn’t Kerry Kolsch a “reviewer” of something…

    • CayKat

      “Kris is talented, but IMO he’s not terribly creative musically and the music itself isn’t that interesting”

      This is the most laughable thing I have read all day.

      • ross

        Is writing songs considered being terribly creative musically? Just a mite curious.

        • marissa

          I think Kris is talented, and he obviously knows music since he does write songs, but I don’t think the songs are that interesting or creative musically. JMO–opinions differ.

      • marissa

        You don’t think Adam is interesting, I don’t think Kris is interesting. It’s a difference of opinion. I don’t think that’s laughable. I think if I said “Kris can’t play instruments” that would be laughable, like someone saying “Adam can’t sing” would be laughable–those are just facts. But thinking someone’s interesting is more of an opinion than a fact, and we should be allowed to have different opinions.

        • ross

          I think if I said “Kris can’t play instruments” that would be laughable, like someone saying “Adam can’t sing” would be laughable–those are just facts.

          Just as someone saying “Kris can’t sing” is also laughable.

          Kinda tired of the “Kris is the one who plays instruments, Adam is the singer” thing. Kris is also a singer. I think he’s a better singer than Adam. Adam has an amazing vocal instrument, but frankly I never thought that that makes him a great singer. And Kris’s vocal instrument is pretty amazing also.

          • Lauren

            THEY BOTH CAN SING, OK?!

            Get over it. Really lol. No more fighting. Kris and Adam are both extremely talented in numerous ways. Marissa finds Adam interesting. Ross finds Kris interesting. I find them both interesting…especially together! xD

          • ross

            I think marissa and CayKat were interrupted by me. Sorry, Lauren. :(

          • deez

            K*****!1111!!!!!1111!!!!

          • Lauren

            Sorry Ross. I forgot that you didn’t start this. xD
            Anyway, Cay, what I said to Ross applies to you.

          • http://topidolblog.com TopIdol

            You know what’s funny? I never wanted this post to be about comparing apples and oranges, yet, I knew that’s how it turned out just b/c they were both playing the same show.

            Which is a shame. Because they’re two different people. And I haven’t even compared their performances to each others. They both stand on their own.

          • Lauren

            EVEN YOU USE THE APPLES AND ORANGES EXPRESSION!!!!!

          • jujubee

            sigh….Kris and Adam both give what appear (from the looks of the youtubes, i wasn’t there) to be terrific performances, and rather than focus on Kris’ terrific headlining gig this quickly and predictably devolved into a 300 plus comments thread bashing Adam, his band, his performance stye and the Glamberts. Why not focus on your love of Kris (he is terrific, nothing wrong with fantarding over him if you want) rather than obsessively ripping apart Adam and 4 or 5 Glamberts who hang out at MJ’s. It just gets tiresome. (even though I lurk and rarely post I will probably be banned now….sorry topidol, c’est la vie)

          • http://topidolblog.com TopIdol

            You know I don’t ban people for such things as merely expressing an opinion relatively politely.

            Like I said, didn’t want it to be a comparison thread b/c I didn’t compare them and I was at the show. But this is how all things end up, isn’t it…? Granted, I don’t think all the criticism about Lambert’s performance are from Kris fans. I should start keeping dossiers on everyone, though ;)

          • marissa

            I can totally understand thinking Kris is a better singer if he appeals more to you. It’s not just about the technical stuff or who has the biggest voice. There are plenty of huge-voiced, technically talented people who don’t appeal to me.

            I love Adam’s voice because it’s beautiful and distinctive and those technical gifts enable him to use it like an instrument in an unusual way and his interpretive gifts and musicianship with his voice are really amazing. So he’s one of my favorite singers. Bob Dylan is also one of my favorite singers even though I’m pretty sure that his voice technically sucks.

            I think Adam is a great singer. I think Kris is a good singer, but not musically interesting to me. But that’s just my opinion, and obviously people always have different opinions about music so I’m not trying to get you to agree with me, I’m just offering my opinion. :)

            I think there might be a tendency to see Adam as the gifted singer and Kris as the gifted musician, which is probably kind of annoying to fans since Kris can sing and Adam’s voice is his instrument in a really amazing, rare way. So, that wasn’t my point, and I didn’t mean to annoy you–I was just offering those two statements casually as an example of what I was talking about.

          • marissa

            Also, while Kris isn’t my thing musically, he seems like really good person. :)

          • saskin

            Goodness. Why would someone say something like

            …while Kris isn’t my thing musically…

            ??? Musically? Really? How sophisticated you are… Brava. So, you have awesome musical taste where you prefer a boring chorus repeated for 3.5 minutes without any melody what-so-ever with some generic boring techno beat on the background over some generic boring alternative rock/pop crap. Congratulations. You win. Awesome taste in music.

          • marissa

            Er….saskin, I just meant that Kris’s music isn’t my thing? Hence he “isn’t my thing musically”? I don’t think “musically” is a sophisticated technical term or anything–it’s just an adverb. :)

            And I don’t think there’s anything wrong with saying why I like Adam’s music (and don’t particularly enjoy Kris’s) when most people here are saying they like Kris’s music and don’t enjoy Adam’s. I’m not claiming to have omgthebesttasteinmusicever, I’m just saying what I like. :)

            Chill out. Step away from the internet and go for a relaxing walk or something.

          • Lauren

            It’s ok, Marissa. Maybe offense at Saskin for calling both your idols boring can bring you together with the Kris fans. Haha!

          • saskin

            Marissa… ‘musically’ is not the adverb you are looking for. It is like saying “musically I prefer Justin Beiber to Miley Cyrus”. Doesn’t make sense does it? Because ‘musically’ they are both pure crap. Scrap ‘musically’ and say “I prefer Beiber to Cyrus”; now no one can argue because it is your taste.

  • lostbrigade

    I think the difference between Kris and Adam’s performances (I mean, aside from the obvious style differences) is that Adam is much more self-aware onstage. That’s not a bad thing– a lot of brilliant artists are very calculated in their performances– it’s just different, and it’s still really early in his career. Despite what some of his fans think, there *is* room for him to grow as a performer. First, he needs better choreographers (the IIHY dancing is just too cheesy for me, oh god, the peace signs); second, he needs to try for a more “sophisticated” look if he really wants to be the male Lady Gaga (I know he says he doesn’t, and he’s tired of the comparisons, but as a Gaga fan I see it as a GOOD thing), because right now he’s closer in comparison to Ke$ha– not in terms of vocals, obviously, but in terms of his “message” and performance style.

    Kris has room to grow too, of course, but I think there’s a big difference in his stage presence now compared to a year ago. During the Idols tour he didn’t do half as much bantering as he does now– getting a band together was the best thing that could have ever happened to him in terms of his live performances. Adam performs more like a solo act with a supporting band– which I think is a good thing for him– and Kris performs more like he’s a lead singer of a band, and there’s more interaction between them.

    Both of their bands have excellent musicians. Both of them can sing very very well live, which was evidenced last night watching so many artists with shit voices in comparison. They’re both good, and whether you like one over the other is going to depend on your personal tastes. Mine personally lean heavily toward Kris, but hey, plenty of people love what Adam does even if I don’t, so whatever. I will say Adam’s “Sleepwalker” was my favorite of his set and RCA would be idiots if they don’t make that a single at some point.

    • marissa

      Yeah, totally–I’ve only watched a couple of Adam’s videos but I’m sure that they were leagues above most of the other performers in terms of singing. Kesha has lots of personality though and her songs don’t require much singing anyway, so I’d probably still enjoy her. :)

      I do hope that Sleepwalker is a single in the Fall–it’s not one of my absolute favorites on the CD, but it’s incredible live.

      “They’re both good, and whether you like one over the other is going to depend on your personal tastes.”

      Again, totally. :D I like you and your rational opinions.

      • lostbrigade

        I didn’t watch the full stream but I watched enough to be able to tell that both Adam and Kris sang better live than almost every other act there. I don’t think Jason DeRulo sang live at all but just lip-synched his whole set.

        I don’t think Kris is doing anything groundbreaking, but he doesn’t have to be in order for me to be a big fan– I just really love his voice, and I like his album, and I think he’s only going to get better. I feel like with all the fan warring with fan bases and the media, the fact that he has an amazing voice gets overlooked a lot of the time… he’s not going to hit the insane notes Adam does, but his tone is fantastic and he’s a really strong singer. The craptacular season nine of Idol has only reinforced that.

        I don’t think Adam is doing anything groundbreaking on a musical level… I think it’s great that he’s the first out gay male artist signed to a major record label, and I think he is talented, but he’s got a lot of shit to figure out still. I also am wary of judging any of the Idols on their first albums, since those are just rush jobs thrown together in an insanely short amount of time. I think they both have potential to be better than they are right now.

        • ross

          Yeah, I don’t think Kris is about breaking ground, he’s more about style. The style he brings to his singing and performing, and what I think is innate good taste, musically. Yet his music doesn’t really seem imitative, it seems fresh, and the arrangements are clean, and he’s creative. I love the soound of his voice. I also love his abilty to riff a bit, like a jazz singer.

          • lostbrigade

            I showed a video of Kris performing to a family member who didn’t know much about him and her reaction was, “God, he just REEKS music.” And it’s true. I’ve seen him live in concert a few times and you get the sense that he’s not putting on airs, he’s not holding anything back. He has a natural musical instinct I really appreciate.

            Also, I love the tone of his voice. It’s very clean and lovely and versatile. I’ve learned that while there are some songs by Adam I enjoy, something about the tone of his voice kind of bugs me, despite how technically good he is.

          • ross

            I really love how he riffs. Like the bluesy thing he did at the end of Come Together in San Antonio. That is something you either got or you ain’t. And yeah, his vocal tone is sweet as anything.

          • barado

            Kris’ ability to riff seems to go completely unnoticed, probably because it’s never gratuitous or showboaty as it is with so many idols, but I think it’s one of his vocal strengths.

      • Idoltard10

        Join the campaign on a Sleepwalker single here! That is usually my fave moment of the set. Even above and beyond FYE(when he sings it-he didn’t last night). But some people don’t like it because its a pretty melancholy song…break ups and whatnot, ya know. Brilliant live though. and Tommy Joe rocked that solo.

  • Destry

    I find all of these opinions on Adam “not being real” very interesting and well-put. I like seeing a different side to things but figured I could just throw in my two cents as a “fan.” (for argument’s sake)

    Disclaimer: The following opinion is hopelessly biased yet under the attempted guise of sounding objective.

    I don’t think just because you wear eyeliner, nail polish, and crazy outfits means you’re not real. I think it’s possible for a loud image to still be a part of someone, and not something that someone is controlled by or hiding behind.

    I honestly think Adam is being himself. He’s a theater dork, with bad skin, freckly lips, and the belief that astrologiy governs the universe. He’s weird. He dressed up in Halloween costumes and caked himself in Thriller makeup when he was a kid. I think someone can be naturally into the theatrical and the OTT.

    He’s into weird costumes, pelvic thrusting, and corny smiles. And I think he only feels truly at home in bizarrely theatrical places like Burning Man and the Zodiac show, and he attempts to bring that kind of crazy theater schtick to his own performances.

    Lasers, codpieces, and super high notes thrill Adam the same way accoustic, heartfelt, intimate performing thrills Kris.

    But that can be construed as more artificial in taste, and obnoxious in execution, and there’s where personal taste comes in.

    Anyway, dude’s not a god, the AMA’s was horrendous, his recent dancers are annoying, and some of his fashion loves really miss the mark (by miles). I’ve seen performances where he comes across as forced (Wango Tango) but last night, all I saw was a guy in a black jacket having a crazy fun time.

    So overall I think he’s entertaining, I think it’s cool to see a guy be theatrical, into visuals, and, bless his heart, wear tight pants.

    • Destry

      OMG TI, sorry about these long posts, I’m seriously done now.

    • Idoltard10

      Destry, I am definitely on Team No Dancers. I’d rather see him and his band. Adam likes his dancers though…so doubt that will happen. But hey, if he’s happy, I’m happy. Agree with everything else you said too. I don’t think he’s ‘fake.’ I just think that’s him being him.

      • Mithra

        Those dancers are terrible. On twitter, Adam went into a tweet spree trying to explain camp, but I think he’s lost sight of what it is. He’s not being camp, and those dancers are a very good example. It’s just bad, not campy bad. Compare his dancers with Normund’s Brit Slap video’s dancers. THAT is camp, and ironic and smart, even though they are doing practually the same lame moves. Adam and the people he’s working with just come off as desperate and tacky.

        • rockpaperscissors

          True dat Mithra. Normund knows himself some camp. Normund makes me want to listen to music again :)
          If my posts are or start to become a wee bit too much please bear with me I am in the midsts of some mad procrastination. Thank you for your patience. :)

    • vtu

      I agree with all of this, with one caveat. I do think the costumes and makeup and all of that is Adam, but to me it feels like somewhere along the line, Adam starting thinking more about creating visuals for his performance and less about being himself. For example, while it’s not usually my kind of music, for some reason, Gaga’s theatrics kind of work for me, and I think it’s because as weird as it is sometimes, it feels like it’s what she wants to express, and it’s there just because the music and theatrics are all one piece of art for her.

      With Adam, it always feels like the theatrics are a little disconnected from the music; they’re not coming from the same creative place. My current theory is that this disconnect may be due to the fact that Adam didn’t write most of the music on his album, and what he did write was done in a hurry, so I’m not sure how much of it he internalized as “his.” I’m also not sure he really really knows what it is to create performance art yet. Anyway, for all of his performance experience, Adam is still a very new solo artist. Let’s hope he has people around him who will give him honest feedback so that he can continue to learn and grow as an artist.

      • Destry

        Yeah, his look is no where near the sophistication of Lady Gaga’s artistic visual. Her looks are on extension of her music, as TI noted in one of her reviews, whereashe seems to throw on whatever he feels like at the moment. It would be nice to see more connection for sure, and maybe the more he experiments, the less misses he’ll have.
        Bad: dressing like an oriental Vulcan for Sleepwalker on Leno (wtf?)
        Good: dressing like a gypsey, Native American witch doctor during a concert in the middle of the desert.

      • lostbrigade

        but to me it feels like somewhere along the line, Adam starting thinking more about creating visuals for his performance and less about being himself. For example, while it’s not usually my kind of music, for some reason, Gaga’s theatrics kind of work for me, and I think it’s because as weird as it is sometimes, it feels like it’s what she wants to express, and it’s there just because the music and theatrics are all one piece of art for her.

        I agree completely with this. Even if people find Gaga ridiculous and her performances OTT, she does seem to have a “vision,” pretentious though it may be. I think there is a way to be calculated in performances and still be “connected” to the music and she pulls it off most of the time.

        I don’t know if it’s because Adam didn’t write most of the music he performs, or if it’s a lack of vision, or lack of the means to implement whatever vision he may have. He is the guy who says “it ain’t that deep” and said he just wants to make people get up and dance, so maybe that’s as far as his creative expression goes. I think he has the potential to be more than that, it just depends on if he wants to be, or if he can figure it out.

    • rockpaperscissors

      Destry,
      As a Huge fan of some of the greatest Glam Rockers; Mercury, Bowie, John and before his conviction, Glitter, I have to say that Lambert just seems like he is trying too hard. I appreciate what you are saying about his theatrical upbringing and his love of all things OTT etc but for me, it all looks too forced and too rehearsed.
      No one could interpret or connect to a song like Mercury (for me anyway) and with Adam, I don’t feel he connects on any level.
      He has mad vocal skills but it just falls flat for me in the execution. It’s all a little “hey look at me being all OTT and shitzz”

      • Destry

        Yeah, that’s probably where we’ll differ forever onwards (dramatic music!)
        But you couldn’t be more right about Mercury :)

      • jukejoint

        What rockpaperscissors said.

        (Totally off the subject, but I work with a theater that had aplay about rock-paper-scissors come in, and it was called Rochambeau. Apparently that’s another name for it. So if you were going to create your own Neil/Mitchel/AML/KNA sockpuppets, you could try Rochambeau as an alternate personality. Or jan-ken-pon, according to Wiki. As well as fargling. I mean, a person needs at least three sockpuppets, right Neil/Mitchel/AML/KNA?)

        • rockpaperscissors

          Good to know Jukejoint but like a true Xris fan, I’m way too lazy to make multiple accounts LOL

          But is AML a MJ’s sockpuppet? I sometimes get so confused over there as to who really is concerned vrs faux concern trolls etc – it’s hard to keep it all straight- it truly does me heed in sometimes.

          • ross

            AML, Neil, Mitchel, and KNA are all the same person, imho.

          • ross

            Oops. That’s been said. Well, since I’m here, rockpaperscissors, I agree with your post.

          • jukejoint

            And one of them (Mitchel, I think) had the unmitigated GALL to ask some poor Kris fan if s/he posted under four different names at TWoP (although Mitchel/Neil/whoever called it TVoP). Neil/Mitchel/KNA/AML is apparently so smitten with her/his own sockpuppets is that s/he assumes everybody else has them, too!

          • ross

            I saw that. That troll loves to play head games. Accusing someone of doing what they do is just another game, I think.

          • ross

            Accusing someone else of doing what they, themselves, do, I mean.

          • Mithra

            Isn’t there a Niall who’s been posting there for years, and is sane? I’d be pissed if I were him that a sparkle cow took the name Neil.

          • vtu

            I’m also pretty sure AML/Mitchel/KNA/Neil is BornToBeWildAFL. The sockpuppets apparently spawned. That last one is way too long to type out when responding, though, so I’ve taking to using B2BWAFL. :)

          • vtu

            *taken

    • maturin

      Lasers, codpieces, and super high notes thrill Adam the same way accoustic, heartfelt, intimate performing thrills Kris.

      Aww, you put it well. Even bring back the times when I lurved both dudes.

      • ross

        Lasers, codpieces, and super high notes thrill Adam the same way accoustic, heartfelt, intimate performing thrills Kris.

        Destry, I have to ask. No challenge intended, But why do most of Adam’s fans always seem to describe Kris as intimate and acoustic? That’s just one side of him. He also has a band. And a lot of what he does, from Live Like We’re Dying, to Alright With Me, to Come Together, is high-energy, rocking, or fun. Michael Orland recently described him as a “dynamo.” I’ve seen him live, and he is.
        He was, the other night at the Kiss concert. Sorry, but it’s like you guys seem to misunderstand him.

  • RarelyC

    I watched the livestream and thought Kris was fantastic. It’s interesting to read the different opinions about the songs. As for me, I much prefer The Truth to Can’t Stay Away. Still love the Heartless mash-up. As for Adam, listening/watching him perform his new single, it was pretty clear that he had backing vocals (or whatever you call it). I wish they had done that for some of the other performers who couldn’t carry a tune. I don’t really get his new single. Unlike Whatya Want From Me, which is pretty hooky, I couldn’t hum his new single now if you put a gun to my head.

    TI, I get what you are saying about Adam “performing” in a way that prevents a certain type of connection. But, honestly, I just think that’s the way he is. As someone said earlier (in a different way), you can take the singer out of musical theatre but you can’t take the musical theatre out of the singer. That doesn’t really bother me — it is what it is. But throwing f-bombs at a venue with tweens (and talking about casual drug use in forums where tweens can read it) — that does bother me. Look, I swear like a sailor, but I don’t do it in front of kids or in places where I shouldn’t. Be an effin’ professional. (that last sentence was supposed to be a joke — the “effin’”part, anyway).

    • rockpaperscissors

      ITA – I was born in Glasgow so swearing is second nature to me LOL -but there is a time and a place for it or else I’d be telling my boss to go f herself every other fecking hour.

      • RarelyC

        rockpaperscissors, so cool you’re from Scotland. I lived in Scotland for a year and absolutely loved it. And nothing sounds so fine as a Scot telling someone to f**k off. If only Adam were Scottish . . . .

        • http://topidolblog.com TopIdol

          Scottish cursing is the greatest cursing of all! And if anyone doesn’t believe me, I beg them to go pick up a couple of Irvine Welsh books.

          • Dickory Dock

            Irvine Welsh. <3

      • jukejoint

        If it’s not Scottish, it’s CRAP.

    • Lauren

      Maybe it’s because I am young, but I really don’t think any performer should have to censor themselves for anyone, especially tweens. They aren’t that innocent, trust me.

      Adam with a Scottish accent would be really hot though. *tard*

      • RarelyC

        Yes, it’s because you’re young. Just wait. Remember your comment, put it in your file, and pull it out later when you have kids. And then we’ll talk. As Jeremy Irons (playing Claus von Bulow) said in Reversal of Fortune, “you have no idea.” (Look it up.) And while we’re on the subject, a performer could whip it out on stage and that would be okay? I mean preventing him from doing it is — icky censorship — right? Or spewing racial epithets while he’s performing is okay, because to prevent it would be “censorship,” right? We self-censor every day. It’s called effin’ civilization. And trust me, sister, I know tweens aren’t innocent. That’s not the point. Respect for your audience is the point.

        • Lauren

          Ok, ok fine. SOME censorship is good. Things aren’t black and white though. Tweens hear swearing every day. I feel like that is an unnecessary amount of censorship.

          I plan on being a “cool” parent that isn’t overprotective of her children so I doubt my opinion will change but who knows? I talk to you in like 10 years.

          • rockpaperscissors

            LOL, good luck with that Lauren. The first time your toddler says fuck to the nice old lady at the grocery store you may change your mind.

          • Lauren

            Gray areas RPS, gray areas!

      • margie

        Lauren it is because you’re younger and hell I am not old… :) but I notice my tastes have changed a lot on what is acceptable and whatnot in public settings. I guess I am growing up…damn it ..lol :)

        • margie

          acceptable in and whatnot in public settings due to the age level of the audience.

  • Idoltard10

    Both dudes rocked it last night. Unfortunately, I had to settle for streaming, but it was a good live stream, so props to Kiss 108 for that. Would have loved if Kris had done a cover of the Scientist since he sounded so good with Allison on it. Still not into Can’t stay Away- Wish Alright With Me was the next single..maybe they’ll crank that one out next?Heartless/Gangsta mashup is always a treat. Hope he keeps singing that one for years to come. His crowd interaction was awesome.

    Loved Adam’s lace up pants! Just awesome. And they did great without Monte. As for the backing vocals, that’s because Monte sings back up and plays lead. I doubt Tommy Joe knows the lead set NEARLY as well as Monte does. Same with Cam on bass. Also that left them with nobody on keys, which is a huge issue on songs like If I Had You. Pretty sure also that Tommy and Cam do sing SOME back up, but not like Monte, and certainly Longineu does not. So doing a set without Monte really had to be difficult. He’s their leader, besides Adam. I think they rocked it. Sleepwalker was my favorite moment of the night. And re: being contrived/theatrical: As a theater geek, I can tell you that when you spend most of your life playing roles, it becomes habit. Doubt its on purpose. And I suspect the profanity is a regular part of Adam’s vocabulary. He almost cursed on live primetime tv when he was praising the band after Play That Funky Music on Idol. Anyway,great show from both dudes.

  • morgan_

    ED. NOTE: I’m only approving this to let “Morgan” understand why their comments no longer appear. BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN BANNED. So please, go away. You’re a sanctimonious asshat.

    TI – You make no sense and it’s probably because you’re trying to appear “sincere”.

    Lambert’s band? It’s the famous Monte Pittman (Madonna and Prong’s guitarist and Madonna’s personal guitar teacher) who is his old friend and collaborator from when they had The Citizen Vein band together with Tommy from Prong. LP the drummer is world respected, from Yellowcard, and been playing for 22 years. His teachers were some of the best in the business. The keys players have been Lisa from Smashing Pumpkins a respected jazz player in her own right, Zak from Korn, and now Cam from her own band. That leaves Tommy who auditioned as guitarist and agreed to switch to bass since Monte had the guitarist role. He filled in for Monte as lead guitar last night – did you even NOTICE Monte wasn’t there? He’s also the musical director wtf.

    You want him to sing songs differently from the album? He’s singing to people that never watched him before so it’s not OLD to THEM. Anyway, he does. He changes every single one up somehow every single time so dopes stop accusing him of lipping. He also has done tons of performances a cappella and there is no shortage of utubes to see the many different permutations including jazzed up cabaret versions of Mad World in EU. You certainly saw him “unplugged” on VH1 or MTV with no electric and sitting down. What part of those performances were not “different” to you? eyeroll

    If you were so REALLY WANTING TO “like him” you wouldn’t have spent the last year trying so hard to hate him for nothing.

    And Kris? Oh yeah, he really changes it up alright. LMAO. OH WAIT. I get it. If the Lambert song has a high note, you don’t want him to sing it. OK. Makes perfect sense. Especially when he’s singing before Kris. Such wank, SRSLY.

    • rockpaperscissors

      Why so angry Morgan?

      In the Immortal words of King Glambert the Sparkly:

      “It’s not that deep”

    • margie

      Morgan who peed in your Cheerios? I thought both sounded great. I liked Kris’s set better but his music is my style and what I listen to on a regular basis. Kris just keeps getting better.

      And a big fat NO to Music Again, Adam…I hated that song. First time I heard it was last night on the livecast and it is horrible.

      • blacklisted

        I thought I was the only one who hated Music Again. Anything BUT Music Again is what I want to hear from Adam.

        • vtu

          No, you’re definitely not alone. The high note is cool, but the rest of the song is just so dated and sad. I hate it about as much as I hate Lips of an Angel and Fireflies (and that’s a lot).

    • CayKat

      I am going to say it. Morgan – you are a fucking idiot. Seriously, you are. TI – not sure what kind of trouble this will get me in.

      • CayKat

        TI – please remove this comment I posted. I took the bait and lost it. Not necessary.

        • http://topidolblog.com TopIdol

          Oh no, you’re fine. I called them a sanctimonious asshat. And they’re banned. :)

          • saskin

            Morgan is more than one person? Heh.

    • deez

      And Kris? Oh yeah, he really changes it up alright

      You don’t have to like him as performer, but the thing you chose to criticize him about is probably the one thing that nobody would actually disagree on. He’s a change-up master. FAIL.

      IDK anything about Adam’s band. I don’t care for big stagey productions. (The best Oscar performance ever, for me, was Glenn Hansard/Marketa Irglova without all the dancers/background crap.) I think all the nonsense detracts from the performance. He would be AWESOME if he’d lose the unnecessary stuff.( The hair/clothes are fine.) To me his band needs to be more of a background, Adam’s voice should be the show. THAT’s what makes him different…not the other crap. Enjoy your banishment.

      • CayKat

        and this is why I love you Deez.

        Oh, and can we talk about why I had a flash from the Romeo and Juliet (Dicaprio/Danes version was the visual) when I read the word “banishment”? “Banishment! be merciful, say ‘death; For exile hath more terror in his look”

        I know, I have issues.

    • Lauren

      Thank you TI! Morgan was the worst of the trolls. She wasn’t even fun to laugh at.

  • deez

    They are really missing a big opportunity by having to perform The Truth intsead of Can’t Stay Away on nat’l tv Wed. People would’ve paid attention in a “Wow that’s a cool song” kind of way, now they will get sleepy or go to the fridge. That’s what I’ve thought in years past, hearing some crappy single from an Idol, not realizing that they had much better songs out there. The only difference is that this year, I’m paying attention. Most people don’t. Too bad.

    • ross

      Nah, deez, I really think The Truth will work in that context. It’s not a dirgy ballad, it’s kind of hooky and Kris gives it so much intensity and (sorry) truth, while I think Can’t Stay Away is a good song but almost a throwaway, as it’s not very involving. I was never a fan of The Truth but there’s something about that song. It’s grown on me, and people seem to respond to it. Also it gives Kris a chance to really emote. Too bad people can’t see more of his fun side, but, whatever, can’t do it all in four minutes.

      That live stream was freaking awesome. Kris ruled! He was so cool. I mean, musically he was so in the zone, but he was also so relaxed in front of that huge crowd. That whole set put a huge smile on my face.

      • ross

        (Sorry for tarding.)

    • barado

      I think Kris and The Truth will stand out from all the cheese that usually dominates an AI finale, so it’s all good.

    • vtu

      I can see why you think Can’t Stay Away should have been the next single. It’s a fun song, and it’s great live, but a lot of fans on other boards have talked about how it doesn’t hold up well on repeated listenings, and I have to agree. It was one of my favs when the album first came out, but now it does nothing for me. It’s not the type of song that would have staying power on the radio.

  • rockpaperscissors

    TI, couldn’t agree with you more.
    Adam looks to be playing a part to me rather than performing. It is all too contrived, even his smiles while performing look strategically placed and phony. I can’t help but think poser every time I see him perform.

    Nice voice shame about about your shtick

    Kris was in top form last night. I love his energy and how his love of music shines through.
    He may not have the diva voice Adam has but for me, for you, it’s all about connecting to the song and of course – the music. :)

  • jukejoint

    My husband has developed a sudden addiction to all things Guster, and I noticed that they have opened for (or will be opening for) Barenaked Ladies and Maroon 5, too.

    I think the Kris Allen Band and Guster would make for a very nice concert. I will keep waiting for that and wishing that either one or both pick up a gig in Illinois soon. Kris will be in Wisconsin, Iowa and Indiana, but not Illinois. Guster did a bunch of Midwestern colleges, but none of the ones near me.

    BOOOOOOO!!!

    Btw, my favorite Kris Allen song off the album is “Is It Over” and that video is really, really good from last night. Come on, Kris. Bring your fine self to central Illinois and bring Guster with you…

    • yuppie

      Kris is doing a big radio show w/ BNL in Chicago on July 9.

      http://worldslargestblockparty.com/

      • jukejoint

        And I’m in San Diego that week. Fail.

      • songkat7

        Got my tickets already – really looking forward to this, especially with all the positive comments on Kris’ live performances.

  • Destry

    Loved last night! Just a few notes:

    To Kris: Damn dude how you have grown! Your interaction with the audience, stage presence/comfort, and jaunty swagger are spot on perfection. Keep up the soulful style babe!

    To Monte: Congrats on your twins! Atticus and Beatrix are the most bizarre names you could pick and I love you for it!

    To Tommy: Just drop the lead guitar and step away from it, NOW! Sorry dude, but your guitar playing last night was not impressive. Just because you have facial features more gorgeous than Jared Leto’s, doesn’t mean you can replace Monte’s sheer awesomeness.

    To Adam: Dude, if you don’t know whether or not the pompadour rooster tail can withold the sweat, do an hour of Taebo (Tae Bo?) with it first.
    -Do NOT sing Music Again anymore! It’s one of the worst songs on your album. Just because you can sing “eyes baby eyes!” really high, does not mean the rest of the song is worth listening to. If you love singing “eyes baby eyes!” that high, just do it before one of your other songs (or during).
    -Have the dancers finally been banished henceforth? Yes? Please????
    -Thank you for realizing harem pants have been banned from all Northwestern cultures since 1992.
    -Thank you for returning to a simple black outfit (now all we need to figure out is what to do with those Freddie Krueger slash lines in your hair)
    -Second half of Sleepwalker was incredible, keep saving your best wails and riffs for that song.
    -Much better than Wango Tango, glad you’re having fun again.
    -You’re kinda cute :)

    • Destry

      Woah! Sorry! Just realized how long that was ! Won’t happen again

      • muzikizmi

        Destry, that kind of fan tarding is very acceptable with me. I agree with most of what you said. I think he is better off without the dancers, and the pants were a big improvement. The hair was interesting. Is that a Pompahawk?

    • jukejoint

      (now all we need to figure out is what to do with those Freddie Krueger slash lines in your hair)

      Fill it in with a black Sharpie?

      • CayKat

        Funny how I actually liked the slash lines. It was like some random throwback to KidandPlay or KrisKross. Dated and semi-lame as it is, I actually thought it was fun.

        • Destry

          I think the sudden slash lines might have been for some new look he sported in the new music video, because that’s the first pics with them. They actually look cool there cuz he feels them in with this shimmery makeup, but he needs to black Sharpie (I think) them now.

      • Destry

        LOL!!!

      • vtu

        I was thinking that spray-on hair Ron Popeil used to sell on TV would work, but then it occurred to me that Adam sweats a lot on stage, and it would probably be bad if his spray-on hair started running down his face during a performance. Sharpie ink is impossible to wash out, so it should be resistant to being sweated out.

        • Destry

          Could you imagine if all the pompadour in his hair completely melted under the heat and his pompahawk totally fell apart while performing? That, along with melting spray paint, eyeliner, and blue eye shadow, is something I’d pay to see.

          • rockpaperscissors

            LOL, I’d pay to see that too!
            And can you imagine the pages and pages and pages of complete crap that the BSCes would spew. As it is now, they spend an unreasonable amount of time dissecting every little minute detail for each and every concert. From his hair to his make-up to his clothes to his gla—b—e to how many times he touched himself blablablavlallaaaaaaaa

          • vtu

            LMAO You paint a hell of a visual. I’d pay to see that, too.

    • Lauren

      Thank you for realizing harem pants have been banned from all Northwestern cultures since 1992.

      I love you so much. Those pants were awful. I usually enjoy his outrageous fashion choices but those hammer pants were more than questionable.

      Much better than Wango Tango!

  • Europegirl

    Hi TA! Thanks for your review. This is my second post here. I just feel I have to respond to your article. I did enjoy both Adam and Kris too. I saw Kris set for first time and I really liked him. The only one thing I couldn’t understand why he sings covers and not his own songs?! At least that was my impression from yesterday. However Kris sounded great and he did his best to interact with audience and he got good response. Kris did solid closing performance of the event.
    Regarding Adam you wrote that you wish he would be more natural and didn’t sound too much like the album. Well I don’t think that particularly this concert was right place to do covers of his songs. I think there was pretty much people who are not familiar to Adam’s songs. At least they will recognise songs on radio after :) If you want to see difference you should come to the concert. But I know it’s too much to ask from you :) Or maybe just have a look on some Adam’s unplugged sets he did in Europe. You will catch both: true emotions (actually I disagree that Adams plays on stage when hi sings, it’s just his style which is not acceptable for all) and different sound.
    Finally I would like to say something what I wrote in my first post some time ago. Adam’s popularity in Europe is growing pretty fast and his fan base is quite different here in terms of age. I would say there are more young people. American Idol is not most popular show here, so people get to know Adam from local radio or TV appearance. And I think he did great impression. I would like to say also some words to those who are worrying about Kris (I saw many comments about how Kris doesn’t get enough attention or he is not marketed as heavy as Adam etc). I’m sure he will do fine in the future too. Kris is really good musician. I wish him best.
    Thank s for attention. I might not respond if there will be offensive replies (some people I find here as nuts indeed). Offensive is not synonym to different point of view. That’s it!

    • muzikizmi

      Europegirl, Kris wrote Can’t Stay Away (his opening song), Alright With Me, and Is It Over. That should make them his own songs. He does Heartless, because it is on his album. The Truth, is just as much Kris’ own song, as Whataya Want From Me, is Adam’s song.

      I have seen that ‘cover song’ meme being kicked around the net. Just remember that Adam fan sites are not the best source of information about Kris.

      • Europegirl

        It was my personal point of view, my first impression after Kris set and nothing to do with Adam fan sites. Actually I even haven’t seen posts about “cover songs”. And thank you for clearing up regarding Kris own songs.

        • deez

          The only thing that was a true “cover” was “Come Together”, I think.
          I did see a tweet last night on the Kiss108 Twitter feed complaining that Kris was doing all covers, perhaps you saw that? What is funny is that the person tweeted that right after he started “Heartless/Gangter’s Paradise”….which was one of the forst songs he did. Can a mashup be called a cover? I have no idea. What he does is very different.

          I REALLY wish Can’t Stay Away would’ve been his second single. I think it’s so much better than The Truth, and Andrew’s (last name? Roberts… DeRoberts?) solo at the end is really good.

          • CayKat

            I hope this “covers” debate ends here. Someone always brings it up when we all damn well and know that Kris and the band do them everytime. As do many other bands. Anyone who complains about that either doesn’t know much about Kris, as EuropeGirl mentioned she doesn’t, or they are just trying to start shit.
            Regular TI peeps are savvy and smart- don’t think we have to defend Kris everytime someone says it and don’t take the bait when it’s being done just to piss p people off.

            Kris fans love and EXPECT Kris to do his covers because they are great. We also love his original songs (obviously) so, it’s always great when we get a mix of everything. He’s fun like that.

            I can’t see half of what I am writing cause of an ad so I hope it’s free of errors.

          • Sara Elizabeth

            DeRoberts. Yes, he’s an amazing guitar player. I wonder how old he is because he looks young, but he’s so great.

          • ross

            Thanks, CayKat. I don’t know the motive for asking about covers but the whole discussion is useless. I don’t know one fan of his who ever complained about his awesome covers.

  • CayKat

    Still jealous but, I’ll get over it. Caught the live stream of Kris and enjoyed that very much. Watched Adam via MJs and loved Sleepwalker. I can’t get into the new single though and don’t really like any of the other songs that were in his set other than Whattaya Want From Me.

    I understand your points about the contrived style in his performances – you can see a little of him beneath the surface but, it’s very controlled and deliberate, which makes it feel empty. The cursing really annoys me. I know everybody swears but, I fail to see why he needs to do that. ESPECIALLY with an audience of young kids. And don’t give me that crap about people keeping their kids at home blah, blah, blah. He had to know what the core audience was.
    Of course, he is a vocal powerhouse but, it still doesn’t feel like it’s his everything.
    To all those who response to TI with arguments about sexulaity and going OTT – you’ve missed the point entirely.
    Re: backing tracks – to use the justification that other pop artists do the same thing is silly – we know they do and that’s the sad state of music today. Adam isn’t “Keshit” or whoever – he can ACTUALLY SING – so why bother with the back track bullcrap? That’s just my feeling on that. I know others will look at it differently.

    Kris was great, I thought he faltered a bit on “Is it Over” – he’s delivered better renditions in the past. Other than that, he was so good. The band was hot and I loved the subtle changes they made to some of the set numbers.

    I am going to find vid of The Script cause I think they are great also.

    • Lauren

      But Cay, if parents are worried about their kids hearing swear words, they shouldn’t be taking them to concerts. Swearing at concerts is almost a requirement.

  • jujubee

    aw topidol, can’t agree with you re: Adam’s band. His lead guitar player Monte, wasn’t there last night (i think his wife was giving birth or something). Monte and Adam have known each other forever and had a band together before Adam was on idol. and he sings backup and certainly was no chosen just for his look. the rest of his band have tons of experience playing on other relatively well-known bands. i would assume they were chosen more for their musicianship than their look. they probably wre just off, or not jelling, last night because their leader, monte, was absent and they had to make do with one less band member and more reliance on a backing track. shit happens.

    • http://topidolblog.com TopIdol

      Oh, I don’t think they’re bad, and Monte is great. I don’t think they’re a bad band at all!

  • mylifeback

    I watched several of the acts on the livestream yesterday, and I have to say, Idol singers sure can sing in tune. It made me sad when I heard some of the massive suckitude that went on yesterday.

    And if you’ll allow me a *brief* tardfest. Kris has come soooo far in his stage presence since Idol, I was amazed at how much of an entertainer he was yesterday, while still being his adorable, genuine self. We know he can sing in tune and that he always puts his emotions into his performances, but his rapport with the crowd has grown tremendously. He’s such a real guy, and people respond to that. *tardfest over*

    Seriously though, that BLG dude’s falsetto? I thought it was a cat howling.

    • jazz

      Completely agree, mylifeback!

  • Tw!sted_S!ster

    OK Adam was amazing and so was Kris.

    I also don’t know what do you want from Adam. Maybe get naked on stage? lmao.
    “I just want the guy to thrown caution to the wind and perform with reckless abandon.”–> HA and then be crucified by all the bloggers and the media in general.
    But it’s OK everyone is entitled to their opinion. But is alright, alright with me. ^_^

    The Script was amazing. A lot of people were tweeting about getting their album after the concert.

    • http://topidolblog.com TopIdol

      This is what I’m talking about. Lambert performing with “reckless abandon” has NOTHING to do with any of those things. I just want to see him unconcerned with projecting this image he’s created for himself. To not give a fuck. All of the stuff he does now is contrived because its done to support his “image.” I want to see something real.

      • muzikizmi

        TI, it was obvious from watching the live stream that Adam was using a vocal backing track. There were places in the later moments, where Adam’s vocals were being heard, but Adam was mostly dancing, and catching a backing vocal line. That is why he can’t deviate from the recorded version.

        Also, as you said, his backups seem to have been chosen for their look. None of them seem to sing. Kris’ backups ALL sing. Even the drummer, can sing a great harmony part.

        It appeared to me, that only The Script and Kris Allen did all of their vocals from the stage. Every other act used a backing vocal track.

      • Gene

        I do think there’s something quite weird about how people like you criticize Adam for doing essentially the same things as many female pop stars do. I think there’s a hesitancy to accept a flamboyant male pop star.

        • muzikizmi

          Gene, do you ever think about anything else? I thought it was
          supposed to be Johnny One Note, not Gene.

          TI commented that Adam never strays from the recorded version,
          and I was merely giving my opinion as to why.

          But, since you brought it up, I much prefer a truly live act over a
          canned pre-fab act, nearly every time. You will never find
          me at a Britney lip-sync concert, unless I was dragged there
          and unable to escape. Unlike Britney, Adam does do a lot of
          actual singing.

          • muzikizmi

            Oooh, sorry about that odd spacing in that last post. I just couldn’t see what I was typing, and tried to make the lines shorter. FAIL

        • isidra

          How do you know she wouldn’t criticize a female singer for the same thing, Gene? Neither Kris nor Adam are female singers, so why would an opinion about female singers come up at all?

          Personally I hate when female singers use backing vocals since it puts more emphasis on dancing rather than the song. Naturally, I also dislike when Adam does it.

      • Tw!sted_S!ster

        To me looks real but I guess not everyone thinks the same.

      • Miz

        I’m with you on this TopIdol. Adam always seems contrived in his performances to me. He’s behind a wall, wearing a mask, and playing a role. It’s all about the image and look.

        It doesn’t have to be that way all the time. My favorite performance of his was when he did the duet with Kris of ‘Crazy’ for Ford (I think). He was totally natural there and I loved it and him. Similar was the Kris/Allison/Adam trifecta on Crazy at the Seacrest NYC concert. Just awesome and really letting lose.

      • jukejoint

        I get what you’re saying, TI, and I completely agree and have for awhile. Adam is playing a role. That’s why all the masks and makeup and costumes and folderol, like a screen between him and the world. I’m not sure he knows how to just be himself, although I still think “Mad World” is the closest he’s come. Note that he disguised himself on that one with blue light or fog so you pretty much couldn’t see him, anyway. Maybe in time he will seize control of his real persona and not be so afraid to appear with his real hair color and no smoke and mirrors.

        Or maybe he will end up back on stage in costume, playing a character every night like Constantine and Taylor. I dunno.

      • ross

        When I saw Adam ‘live’ (once, Idols concert, Boston) it was clearer to me that he’s performing, in a mostly negative sense. I mean, it was very light. Cruise ship, almost. There was no depth. I don’t think you have to perform heavy stuff to have depth, either. It’s about something else, being real. To give him due credit, his energy level was great, and he worked really hard. Of course, you’re not really supposed to think about those things when you’re watching someone. It should probably seem effortless. I feel from Adam what you get from someone in the chorus doing their job, or the kids performing at Disney, or Radio City. Lots of energy, lots of ‘talent’ but it’s like watching people work. You don’t get any sense of who they are, if they love the music, how they feel about the weather tonight, or stuff like that.

    • Pandora

      I think I get what TI is saying (tell me if I’m wrong). If Adam Lambert woke up one morning and thought “I feel like performing in jeans and a Tshirt and sneakers and no makeup and no hair product today” does anyone think he’d actually do it? No, because his image doesn’t allow that.

      • mylifeback

        Exaaactly. I’d love for him to perform without all the trappings (i.e. choreography, lasers, smoke, makeup, etc. For me, he’s at his best when he’s performing without image in mind.

        • jujubee

          Well he has done a whole bunch of acoustic performances over the past few months. No trappings no lasers no backing tracks etc. You can check them out on YouTube . It’s not accurate to say he performs the same way all the time

      • cc

        Just my opinion, everything he does seems calculated (I’m not saying it’s a bad thing, okay?). From what he wears (hammerpants?) to what he says (cursing?) onstage, it’s like he is waiting for a “reaction”. Well, it is just based from what I’ve seen in some of his videos so feel free to disagree. Maybe I just want him to just sing because I know his voice alone can WOW the audience…. *sigh*

  • blacklisted

    I want to hear about The Script too. Hopefully there will be video for those of us who didn’t catch the show.

    I do agree that Adam’s band seems to have been chosen b/c of their particular ‘look’. The more shows they do the more they’ll gel so the summer tour is going to help them seem more like a band.

    Still hoping Drew replace Ryland. Whatevah, I’m probably in the minority. The more I see of them the more I want to see Andrew’s guitar work.

    • Paulie

      I love The Script. Admittedly I haven’t heard of them until the Kris cover-gate, but I guess that’s one of the good things that came out of le scandale for me (for you). That and Kris’s platinum single of course. :P

      I missed the livestream so I dunno what they performed. I’m guessing Breakeven would be one of them. I hoped they did Talk You Down and (of course!) The Man Who Can’t be Moved.

      • Peppermint Patty

        I would love to hear Kris’s take on “Breakeven.”

      • Miz

        THe Script was fantastic. I don’t know their set list, but I recognized all their songs from hearing them on radio. I’m just lousy with titles.

        I also really liked Mission Hills. I had never heard them before, but I’d buy their stuff.

        • muzikizmi

          Kris has another radio mixfest in San Antonio, Tx., tonight. While being interviewed, the DJ said that all of the listeners had declared Kris to be the ‘show hottie’.

          I was spoiled by the live stream last night, and having TI in the audience. Hopefully, videos will surface tomorrow.

          Kris is second to last on the bill, and the show closer is Train. I wonder if they will do The Truth together?

  • yuppie

    Wait. You mean there was no mass exodus after Adam’s set or before Kris’s? I watched the livestream, and I thought both Kris and Adam sounded great. And it sounded like the screams were really loud for both. I do see that a few obnoxious Adam fans are still insisting that Kris wasn’t the headliner, even though the radio DJs said he was. But from what I saw of the other performers, I think only The Script sounded as good live as Kris and Adam. Some of them were absolutely horrible. Be glad you weren’t even there yet for Boys Like Girls.

    KK? Does Kerry Kolsch know her intellectual property is being illegally appropriated by these tweens/teens? She best get on those cease and desist letters pronto!

    • http://topidolblog.com TopIdol

      Boys Like Girls did perform when I was there but I was too busy charging my phone. Someone said it was Boys Like Girls, so…?

      The crowd were enthusiastic for both guys. And I saw no difference in the crowd size after Lambert performed. None at all. Hell, there were a few people leaving when I was going in at 6:15 so I have a feeling that happened all day just because of the concert’s length. I know some parents I spoke to were hoping to leave at 8pm to beat the rush (leaving SUCKED) but their kids said no, they had to stay for this Iyez person and Kris Allen.

      • blacklisted

        Oh I just mentioned The Script but they performed before you got there. Damn.

      • yuppie

        Boys Like Girls performed very early. Maybe you’re confusing them with someone else? They have that song that features Taylor Swift, and the lead singer tried to do her part by doing falsetto, and failed spectacularly. It was painful.

        • blacklisted

          As someone who’s seen Taylor Swift and BLG perform that song, I seriously doubt that the lead singer could do a worse job than Taylor did singing her part live. They should have just grabbed some no name from the pit (like Green Day does for guitar) and have her sing the part. I’m sure it would have been much better than anything Swift could produce.

          • yuppie

            I know Taylor ain’t the best live, but, trust me. Nothing she could have done could have been worse than the BLG guy’s falsetto. It was literally excruciating.

        • Lauren

          I saw BLG live on Friday at the Bamboozle Roadshow. I thought they were great! Maybe he was having a bad day?

      • ross

        I don’t know why they give Adam intros like he got. Is he really a once in a lifetime performer? Garland/Elvis/Beatles? That’s pretty hard to live up to. I wouldn’t even be able to perform after hearing something like that. I’d rather be underestimated than overestimated.

        • muzikizmi

          It is ironic that the older DJ who made the glowing Adam intro, didn’t come back to intro the last two acts. He had been the MC all day long. Maybe his little speech didn’t go over too well, with a higher up? The chatters watching the stream said that the DJ who came out to intro Iyaz and Kris, is the one who said that Kris is his ‘man crush’.

          • ross

            It was probably Matt Siegal or Billy Costa (who interviewed Kris) who was the “older DJ”. Was he bald (that’s Matty)? Maybe he just wanted to leave the concert early. Glowing intros are good but I feel bad for Adam, who I think is a very good, not a “world class” performer, having to live up to that stuff.

        • erinnthered

          A lot of times the intros are written for the DJs by a PR person for the artist. Especially for packaged acts like Adam. Even if he did like Adam, I doubt it was off the cuff.

    • jujubee

      i have seen the Script live and they are fantastic!!!!

    • ross

      Haha, people can “insist” Kris wasn’t the headliner all they want but Matt Siegel called him the headliner on the air. So, wtf? If Aerosmith or Bon Jovi had closed the concert (as Billy Costa said they did, other years) would anyone dispute they headlined the concert? Go suck an egg, you sorry people.

      • margie

        Are people still debating this…seriously? Didn’t Kris go last and play the longest set on top of being said he was headliner? What more proof do they want?

        • ross

          Kris can’t be the headliner, because that was not supposed to be how things worked out a year later. Remember those Idols concert recaps where people said, “maybe Kris can open for Adam when they start touring”? It’s probably the same people.

  • On The Edge

    kids now cannot even type OK while texting. They do KK b/c, as was explained to me by a mother I met, they’re too lazy to type the O when replying.

    Oh for Pete’s sake. I’ll be at the cemetery, quietly mourning the death of the English language, if you need me.

    • http://topidolblog.com TopIdol

      I know, right? Learning this sad fact was one of the night’s biggest highlights. (Er…lowlights)

      • MarkC

        Have to admit that I’ve become desensitized to that more than a lot of other texting acronyms at this point (well, that’s not an acronym, but still, in comparison to some). Probably because I can, well, understand it easily on sight? (I’m not too far off that age group, but not really a texting person either)

        • Paulie

          Well, at least kids in the US are on that stage of texting/communicating. Here in the Philippines, there’s this “pop culture phenomenon” (quotes mine as I refuse to acknowledge it as a form of pop-culture) called Jejemon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jejemon

          See also: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jejemon

          Incidentally it trended on Twitter earlier.

          • cc

            Thank you, Paulie. I’ve been hearing this “jejemon” thing but I have no idea what it means. My brother even said it was covered in the media and become a “story”. When he tried to explain it, he said people are just replacingh with j in text…. so here in the US, they can’t type “O” while in the Philippines, they can’t “H”…. WTH?!

          • jukejoint

            so here in the US, they can’t type “O” while in the Philippines, they can’t “H”…. WTH?!

            Don’t you mean WTJ?

          • deez

            Don’t you mean WTJ?

            LOL!!11!!!!

            Most kids I know don’t even bother with the double K. Ok = K.

          • cc

            LMAO jukejoint! That’s what I’m trying to point out… what is wrong using “O” and “H”! They’re letters to, dammit!1eleven!! ;)

            they can’t type “H”….

            Fixed it!

          • Lauren

            No deez, you say “k” when you are trying to act bitchy and impatient. Completely different meaning than “ok” or “kk.”

    • STLCin

      Ugh, my first post and I have to reveal what a geek I am. “KK” has been used in online gaming for at least ten years, and I’m not talking about just teens, I’m referring to males and females ranging from 15-50. Also used in lieu of OK is “MK” and just “K”. So it’s not just teens mauling the language. It’s geeks and gamers of all ages. I guess I have to include myself and some of my closest friends in that sector.

      By the way I love the site. Found it this year, wish I’d have found it last!

      • http://topidolblog.com TopIdol

        YAY! Welcome! I’m glad you’re here.

        Come to think of it, I have seen KK in MMPORGs…but hey, MK makes more sense b/c it makes me think of South Park :)

        • STLCin

          Thanks for the warm welcome!

          I think KK is just handy. When there are big nasties needing to die every second counts =)